US Election 2020

[Cunt]

And to clarify things further, there are delegates, and super-delegates.

[JimC]

Question regarding the nomination process:

These "delegates" representing certain candidates that will in the end meet up and vote on who becomes the party candidate, can they decide to vote for a different candidate in the end? What about delegates voted in for candidates that have dropped out later, can they still vote for another candidate in the end?

Our political parties are private corporations. Delegates can vote for Mickey Mouse if they want to. If the candidate has dropped out, they can encourage their delegates to support their preferred candidate, but again, there isn't any sort of legal obligation...

That sounds pretty fucked up, not a good recipe for an optimal, rational democratic process...

[Tero]

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[JimC]

4 more years of Trump seems very, very likely to me. The Democrats are a house divided, who ignore the old aphorism from Ben Franklin:

"We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."

[Tero]

Question regarding the nomination process:

These "delegates" representing certain candidates that will in the end meet up and vote on who becomes the party candidate, can they decide to vote for a different candidate in the end? What about delegates voted in for candidates that have dropped out later, can they still vote for another candidate in the end?

Our political parties are private corporations. Delegates can vote for Mickey Mouse if they want to. If the candidate has dropped out, they can encourage their delegates to support their preferred candidate, but again, there isn't any sort of legal obligation...

That sounds pretty fucked up, not a good recipe for an optimal, rational democratic process...

There is nothing in the constitution that prevents separating federal elections to a separate date. States run state level posts. States would count ballots, and provide the electors. For the house and senate, states could be regulated. We could even have mail in ballots. All states allow early voting and few demand you to vote in person. My mother in law votes by mail.

[pErvinalia]

Question regarding the nomination process:

These "delegates" representing certain candidates that will in the end meet up and vote on who becomes the party candidate, can they decide to vote for a different candidate in the end? What about delegates voted in for candidates that have dropped out later, can they still vote for another candidate in the end?

Our political parties are private corporations. Delegates can vote for Mickey Mouse if they want to. If the candidate has dropped out, they can encourage their delegates to support their preferred candidate, but again, there isn't any sort of legal obligation...

When someone wins a state, do they get all the delegates from the state, or is it proportional to how many votes each candidate got?

[pErvinalia]

4 more years of Trump seems very, very likely to me. The Democrats are a house divided, who ignore the old aphorism from Ben Franklin:

"We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."

They are no more divided than any other primary race in the history of the US. To say so seems bizarre. Trump won the presidency with a bitterly divided primary race.

[Tero]

A candidate will need 1,991 of the 3,979 pledged delegates to win the Democratic nomination on the first ballot.

https://www.270towin.com/content/delega ... nomination

[JimC]

4 more years of Trump seems very, very likely to me. The Democrats are a house divided, who ignore the old aphorism from Ben Franklin:

"We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."

They are no more divided than any other primary race in the history of the US. To say so seems bizarre. Trump won the presidency with a bitterly divided primary race.

It was promoted by Tero's post that many Bernie supporters simply won't vote for a non-Bernie Democratic presidential candidate. Even if that means not voting at all rather than voting for Trump, it does seem to exemplify the "house divided" line, and would increase Trump's chances considerably...

[Tyrannical]

Dictator Hitler Trump will order Biden arrested over Ukraine nonsense a few weeks after the Democrat nomination.

[Seabass]

Question regarding the nomination process:

These "delegates" representing certain candidates that will in the end meet up and vote on who becomes the party candidate, can they decide to vote for a different candidate in the end? What about delegates voted in for candidates that have dropped out later, can they still vote for another candidate in the end?

Our political parties are private corporations. Delegates can vote for Mickey Mouse if they want to. If the candidate has dropped out, they can encourage their delegates to support their preferred candidate, but again, there isn't any sort of legal obligation...

When someone wins a state, do they get all the delegates from the state, or is it proportional to how many votes each candidate got?

Proportional, provided they meet a 15% threshold. If they don't reach 15%, no delegates for them...

[pErvinalia]

4 more years of Trump seems very, very likely to me. The Democrats are a house divided, who ignore the old aphorism from Ben Franklin:

"We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."

They are no more divided than any other primary race in the history of the US. To say so seems bizarre. Trump won the presidency with a bitterly divided primary race.

It was promoted by Tero's post that many Bernie supporters simply won't vote for a non-Bernie Democratic presidential candidate. Even if that means not voting at all rather than voting for Trump, it does seem to exemplify the "house divided" line, and would increase Trump's chances considerably...

Unless Bernie wins the primary.

[JimC]

In that case, how many relatively conservative Democrats will vote for him?

[pErvinalia]

Most, I'd imagine. Trump is the alternative, remember.

[Tero]

Even Trump's favorite Emerson, that fluctuates some 4%, is giving it a tie in January. All other polls give it to Biden. Michigan is lost, Wisconsin still on the edge
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6247.html
Qunnipiac is giving it to Trump, others a tie, and Wisconsin still want to go their own way, also wants Sanders
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... onsin.html
you could say Sanders has some momentum there