All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

[Tero]

Will Sommer
@willsommer
A QAnon believer who blocked a bridge over the Hoover Dam with an armored truck when QAnon failed to come true has plead guilty to a terrorism charge and now faces nearly a decade in prison.

[Cunt]

The one he checked in on was the one referenced in the NYT article. (thread here https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status ... 0935623682 )

This link (hovered - didn't click it) isn't a government link. Is the doc on the FBI government site? You can search the previous FOIA requests to find the document. If it IS from the government.

It may be from a famous 'unnamed government source'. So as reliable as a q post.

If a DNC-believer runs a van into election volunteers, does it speak to their organization?

'qanon' is not a group, Tero. It is random, sometimes anonymous people looking into sketchy questions (usually) posed by an anonymous poster, who seems to present themselves as a Trump insider.

To me, q's claims to be pursuing fairness (as opposed to partisan goals) falls down because I can't find anything q claimed which could not be claimed by a rabidly republican loose-talker.

So I think it is (at best) republican propaganda. It might be 'true', but it is almost certainly republican.

[Cunt]

Oh, and a guy named code monkey, who runs 8kun, has reported 'state-level' DDOS attacks on the server infrastructure, happening at the same time as a bunch of stories about q being bad.

I don't know enough about server-stuff to know what exactly he was talking about, but someone who knew internet / server / provider stuff might find something clear in that part of the mess.

[L'Emmerdeur]

The one he checked in on was the one referenced in the NYT article. (thread here https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status ... 0935623682 )

This link (hovered - didn't click it) isn't a government link. Is the doc on the FBI government site? You can search the previous FOIA requests to find the document. If it IS from the government.

It may be from a famous 'unnamed government source'. So as reliable as a q post.

If a DNC-believer runs a van into election volunteers, does it speak to their organization?

You were all excited by that one fellow who was arrested when he was (rightly) deemed a threat to an ICE office, as I recall. You seemed to believe that was a very strong indication that anti-fa was a terrorist movement. But that's different because he's affiliated with the left, while QAnon is affiliated with the right, right?

Yeah, by all means, don't get suckered into clicking on a Wikisource link. Who knows what you might discover?

That twit-head is a genuine dope, and those who bought into his drivel about a FOIA request are just continuing their pattern of straining at gnats from mainstream media but swallowing camels from QAnon and QAnon dopes.

The NYT tweet quotes directly from the document, so yes, the one on WikiSource is the one that the dope made his claims about.

It was reported on this past summer by several reliable sources (though of course QAnon dopes don't believe reliable sources because, well, they're considered reliable, I suppose).

'Exclusive: FBI document warns conspiracy theories are a new domestic terrorism threat'

'Conspiracy theories like QAnon could fuel "extremist" violence, FBI says'

'FBI memo: Pro-Trump conspiracy theories like QAnon, Pizzagate pose domestic terror threat'

'FBI memo warns QAnon poses potential terror threat: report'

'FBI says QAnon conspiracy theories a domestic terrorism threat'

[Cunt]

The one he checked in on was the one referenced in the NYT article. (thread here https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status ... 0935623682 )

This link (hovered - didn't click it) isn't a government link. Is the doc on the FBI government site? You can search the previous FOIA requests to find the document. If it IS from the government.

It may be from a famous 'unnamed government source'. So as reliable as a q post.

If a DNC-believer runs a van into election volunteers, does it speak to their organization?

You were all excited by that one fellow who was arrested when he was (rightly) deemed a threat to an ICE office, as I recall. You seemed to believe that was a very strong indication that anti-fa was a terrorist movement. But that's different because he's affiliated with the left, while QAnon is affiliated with the right, right?

No, it's becaues antifa does violence regularly. It's about all I have heard about them.

Never heard about their efforts to raise a barn for their needy neighbour, or such. Just making vandalism and screaming at people who are trying to exercise their right to hear contrary opinions.

But I don't know a lot about them. Maybe they do a lot of good.

Yeah, by all means, don't get suckered into clicking on a Wikisource link. Who knows what you might discover?

That twit-head is a genuine dope, and those who bought into his drivel about a FOIA request are just continuing their pattern of straining at gnats from mainstream media but swallowing camels from QAnon and QAnon dopes.

The NYT tweet quotes directly from the document, so yes, the one on WikiSource is the one that the dope made his claims about.

Strange how a request to the FBI didn't yield this document you are so sure of.

Weird, huh?

It was reported on this past summer by several reliable sources (though of course QAnon dopes don't believe reliable sources because, well, they're considered reliable, I suppose).

'Exclusive: FBI document warns conspiracy theories are a new domestic terrorism threat'

'Conspiracy theories like QAnon could fuel "extremist" violence, FBI says'

'FBI memo: Pro-Trump conspiracy theories like QAnon, Pizzagate pose domestic terror threat'

'FBI memo warns QAnon poses potential terror threat: report'

Again, those aren't government sources.

So as good as q, really.

I mean, until the government source is located.

Until then, it is those folks saying 'anonymous government sources confirm'.

Do the FBI say anything about Antifa and terrorism? The papers make them sound at least as dangerous as 'qanon supporters'

https://www.newsweek.com/are-antifa-terrorists-658396

I know that isn't government, it's just that we can both play the opinion piece game.

Or you could consider q as authoritative as any news agency reporting 'confidential government sources' or such twaddle.

[Cunt]

Did Trump honestly get more votes (unopposed) than ANY of the Dem candidates? Is that funny? I think that's funny. Especially in the light of people trying to maintain the fiction that Trump is unpopular, and that only dumb hicks support him.

[Tero]

Totally irrelevant. It's like voting for Putin. Trump is going to be the candidate no matter what.

[Cunt]

Yes, but more people showed up to vote for him, than for ANY of the Dem candidates.

Even though he is the candidate NO MATTER WHAT.

Trump is very popular. Deny it at your peril, but I think it would be more reasonable to acknowledge it and try to understand why.

[Tero]

The democrats showed up to vote! Bigger numbers than republicans who are down 20 000.

[Cunt]

The democrats showed up to vote! Bigger numbers than republicans who are down 20 000.

Look, I mean it when I say that I hope the Dems put up a stronger candidate than Trump, but there is something tucked into that, that you might not find easy to resolve.

The best Dem (or ANY) candidate, will be able to work with their opponents.

I like a couple Dem candidates, but Biden is in flames, Bernie is probably going to take it, and he isn't all that famous for being good at fighting for himself.

Maybe, as I hinted earlier, if it was Sanders/Klobichar/Warren or something unexpected. I think the US is ready for a 'First Throuple'.

[pErvinalia]

Yes, but more people showed up to vote for him, than for ANY of the Dem candidates.

What are you talking about? Trump lost the popular vote to Clinton.

[Cunt]

I mean in NH.

How many voted for the Dem who won?

How many voted for Trump (unopposed)?

[Tero]

No new trial for Trump henchman. 20 years with Trump.

[pErvinalia]

I mean in NH.

How many voted for the Dem who won?

How many voted for Trump (unopposed)?

You'll have to fill me in on how the primaries work. I didn't realise Trump is in a primary race. In any case, multiple dem candidates are obviously going to split the overall dem vote.

[JimC]

Some political analyst in the US (I forget the name) has a theory that the dominant factor in recent and coming federal elections is simply about the turn-out - the % of people who would vote for candidate X who can actually be bothered to turn up and vote...