All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Hermit » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:13 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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Regarding the working class I doubt it's either or. It's probably both.
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Some will turn to the Dems next November...
I'm just don't know if there'll be enough of them to prevent Trump winning a second term. Do you?
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:47 am

Depends how many of them are thick as shit.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by JimC » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:50 am

Trump's popularity has risen, and the democrats look like a parcel of squabbling incompetents who couldn't run a chook raffle in a pub...

Other than that, the US is just peachy...
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:28 am

JimC wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:50 am
Trump's popularity has risen, and the democrats look like a parcel of squabbling incompetents who couldn't run a chook raffle in a pub...

Other than that, the US is just peachy...
Only a blip upwards some half a percent
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/tr ... l-ratings/

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Post by Tero » Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:42 pm

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:12 pm

Hermit wrote:
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The blue collar workers among Trump supporters are kidding themselves if they believe what he says about their wages. Trump pays lip service to them but his priority is demonstrably to benefit large corporations and the wealthy, not improving the lives of working people.
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True, Trump has not done anything to improve pay rates for blue collar workers, but to be fair, the rot has set in decades earlier. Starting with Jimmy Carter, no Democrat President has done anything about their lot either.

I don't know why this trend is a surprise to anyone - and in parts Trump's electioneering slogans about a 'rigged system' spoke directly to people's experience of wage stagnation and increased job insecurity. The system is rigged, in favour of people exactly like Trump. This May 2019 McKinsey report,
A new look at the declining labor share of income in the United States (PDF), yet again showed how the value of US labour has been declining as a proportion of GDP. You can find similar graphs showing how the income of the top 10% has travelled in the opposite direction - the increase in wealth of top earners in the US has come at the expense of the rest.
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The decline in labor share of income in the United States since the turn of the millennium has been particularly marked and is the focus of our analysis. Official data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) suggest that, while the labor share had already started to decrease in the 1960s, three-fourths of the entire post-1947 decline occurred between 2000 and 2016 (Exhibit 1). The steepest part of the decline—from 63.3 percent in 2000 to 56.7 percent in 2016—followed a moderate downward drift in the 1980s and early 1990s, and a slight recovery in the late 1990s...

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Trump's fabulous tax deal, hailed as a progressive rebalancing in favour of the little guy by some on this board, has not simply continued, but enshrined the trend of a real terms reduction in returns to the labour market for the value of their work.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by JimC » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:02 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:

Trump's fabulous tax deal, hailed as a progressive rebalancing in favour of the little guy by some on this board, has not simply continued, but enshrined the trend of a real terms reduction in returns to the labour market for the value of their work.
I'm sure you are right, but such nuances will be lost in the election hurly-burly...
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:25 pm

I just checked...that impeachment didn't stick. They should do it again, but this time, time it to remove 'undesireables' from the Dem primary!
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:00 pm

Mine was better. Yours is fake as well.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:12 pm

How did he do in that recent court case? Emoluents or something?

I mean, I would rather stick with humour, but if you want to stick to reality, it also suggests that it 'isn't over yet'.

Better develop a sense of humour, if you aren't yourself a republican.
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Good thing them elderly Trump voters are clueless. Trump will get their votes for his tweets and bluster. They won't know till they have the lower soc sec check in hand 2021. And back to cat food.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Cunt wrote:
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How did he do in that recent court case? Emoluents or something?

I mean, I would rather stick with humour, but if you want to stick to reality...
We can haz both. :mrgreen:

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