The Trump Impeachment

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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by Tero » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:57 pm

Trump team: where is the whistleblower?
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So far the Dems have been able to present a good summary of the evidence they want included. The senators are now voting to scrap...witnesses? I forget.

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Post by Tero » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:10 am

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Post by Svartalf » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:30 am

Tero wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:38 pm
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Is it right to conclude that this kellyanne conway character either is lying through her teeth or doesn't have enough functioning brain cells to differenciate a champagne bottle from a can of coke?
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Post by Joe » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:39 am

I heard her on some panel discussions before she latched on to Trump, and she seemed smart enough. I vote for lying her ass off. :dance:
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Post by Tero » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:39 am

Svartalf wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:30 am
Tero wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:38 pm
kellyanne dirt.jpg
Is it right to conclude that this kellyanne conway character either is lying through her teeth or doesn't have enough functioning brain cells to differenciate a champagne bottle from a can of coke?
Oh that was just the Onion. She only said MLK would oppose the Trump impeachment. They just went from there.

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Post by Svartalf » Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:07 am

I'm not observant enough to check for onion tags.
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Post by Tero » Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:30 am

It was not tagged. Part of your job to find out facts.

Meanwhile, Fox commentator
1 there is no crime, no evidence
(Not if they block it)
2 senators are bored, need games on phone!
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/gregg-j ... is-in-fact

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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by Tero » Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:35 am

In defense of Dems, all attempts to impeach Obama failed. They did not get this far (no basis)

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In March 2012, Republican Representative Walter B. Jones introduced H. Con. Res. 107, calling for Congress to hold the sentiment that certain actions of President Barack Obama be considered as impeachable offenses, including the CIA's drone program in Afghanistan and Pakistan.[13] The resolution died in the House Judiciary Committee.[14]
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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by Tero » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:13 am

Total crap, 9000 posts, on this at Reddit. But found this:
I liked that Schiff emphasized that if it was just about general corruption in Ukraine like Republicans have tried to whitewash it, then Zelensky's original statement about cracking down on corruption should have been sufficient. But no, Trump insisted that Biden and Burisma be mentioned specifically

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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:15 am

It's almost impossible to tell between Onion and reality.
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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by JimC » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:21 am

Reality is fake news!
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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:35 am

when the greatest maker of fake news happens to be potus at the same time, yeah, it becomes hard to distinguish

Just wish somebody would take his seat behind the desk in the oval office and send him a resounding " YOU'RE FIRED"
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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by Tero » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:34 am

MSNBC reports Mitch has the votes to dismiss all kinds of evidence. But he does not have the 51 to dismiss the entire case. So it will probably go to a vote to impeach and dismiss Trump.

The Clinton impeachment went 55/45 in the perjury
50/50 on the obstruction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachme ... nate_trial

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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by Tero » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:43 pm

https://esapolitics.blogspot.com/2020/0 ... hment.html
Trump is being impeached, and the separation of powers is failing. With one party in control, it will be impossible to impeach from now on. It was before, and Nixon for sure would have been impeached if he had not resigned.

We are now going through a week long show trial. The republicans are bored. It was clear from the first vote that no evidence will be presented. The kind that would have legal standing in regular court. No witnesses for sure.

The defense of the Trump legal team has been lame. None of that matters. We know the final vote: 53/47 to not remove Trump. It is going to be a small majority, but anything else would actually have an effect on Trump. who is easily annoyed, but never in such a major way. I guess I am still pleased at all the grief it has brought him.

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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by Tero » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:11 pm

There is a legal basis for subpoenas
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Courts are too slow, and Trump justice dept is trying its best to ruin it

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