All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

[pErvinalia]

Trump Straws, like most of his endeavours, will wind up bankrupt.

[Tero]

Trump to bring down DEEP STATE!
As soon as the Mueller investigation wrapped up in March, Trump called for "investigating the investigators."
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-gave-wil ... ns-1451296

[Tero]

Trump has a solid 40% of voters no matter what. We need stop it being 41-45%.

[Scot Dutchy]

Of course they are stupid just look at them. Fucking first order thicko's.

[Tero]

[Seabass]

This Might Be the Most Important Exchange in the Mueller Testimony
https://time.com/5635276/mueller-testim ... -analysis/

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During the morning session with the Judiciary Committee, Congresswoman Val Demings, the former police chief of Orlando, questioned Mueller about witnesses who lied to investigators. He told her that they fell along a spectrum from witnesses who did not tell the whole truth to “outright liars.” Demings asked whether this impeded the investigation and Mueller said he generally agreed.

This is the exchange we should be focusing on.

Rep. Val Demings asks Mueller if lies from Trump officials "impeded your investigation"

Mueller: "I would generally agree with that"

— CBS News (@CBSNews) July 24, 2019

Although Mueller was constrained from offering a prosecutorial judgment on obstruction, more than 1,000 former federal prosecutors, Republicans and Democrats, from across multiple administrations have opined that if Trump were not a sitting president, he would have been indicted for his conduct. Now take the obstruction committed by the president, amplify it with the witness problems Mueller reported, and consider what that means in regards to Mueller’s conclusion he lacked sufficient evidence to charge a conspiracy.

Mueller actually did that assessment for us. In Volume I of the report, p. 10, he reveals that some witnesses used the Fifth Amendment to avoid testifying, while others lied or offered incomplete testimony. Still others destroyed evidence. He concluded, “while this report embodies factual and legal determinations that the Office believes to be accurate and complete … given these identified gaps, the Office cannot rule out the possibility that the unavailable evidence would shed additional light on (or cast in a new light) the events described in the report.” In the low-key fashion we have come to expect from the former special counsel, this is an acknowledgment that obstruction may well have impacted investigators’ inability to charge conduct that the public has watched unfold over the last two years.

more: https://time.com/5635276/mueller-testim ... -analysis/

[Cunt]

I don't care more than one would about a movie, so don't HAVE to go 'deep' in my understanding. I don't mind heckling, or being heckled, but if you didn't get the idea that this is rather casual, I refer you to my name, and fucking near every post I've made.

Yeah, I understand what you tell us about yourself with your name and posts, otherwise I'd bother to inform you of the common law powers of Attorneys General, and why you and Turner are completely full of shit. Naturally, it would be time wasted, like reading poems to a horse.

So Mueller said he did not fail to prosecute because Trump was president, he said just what was in the report, and heaps of people are still chanting 'Russian Collusion'.

Doesn't sound 'Tinfoil-hat' at all, that.

Could it be that justice HAS been done, and the whingers in the pussy hats were just plain wrong?

[Joe]

I don't care more than one would about a movie, so don't HAVE to go 'deep' in my understanding. I don't mind heckling, or being heckled, but if you didn't get the idea that this is rather casual, I refer you to my name, and fucking near every post I've made.

Yeah, I understand what you tell us about yourself with your name and posts, otherwise I'd bother to inform you of the common law powers of Attorneys General, and why you and Turner are completely full of shit. Naturally, it would be time wasted, like reading poems to a horse.

So Mueller said he did not fail to prosecute because Trump was president, he said just what was in the report, and heaps of people are still chanting 'Russian Collusion'.

Doesn't sound 'Tinfoil-hat' at all, that.

Could it be that justice HAS been done, and the whingers in the pussy hats were just plain wrong?

You didn't watch the hearings and you didn't read the report. Could it be you don't know?

[Seabass]

[Cunt]

I don't care more than one would about a movie, so don't HAVE to go 'deep' in my understanding. I don't mind heckling, or being heckled, but if you didn't get the idea that this is rather casual, I refer you to my name, and fucking near every post I've made.

Yeah, I understand what you tell us about yourself with your name and posts, otherwise I'd bother to inform you of the common law powers of Attorneys General, and why you and Turner are completely full of shit. Naturally, it would be time wasted, like reading poems to a horse.

So Mueller said he did not fail to prosecute because Trump was president, he said just what was in the report, and heaps of people are still chanting 'Russian Collusion'.

Doesn't sound 'Tinfoil-hat' at all, that.

Could it be that justice HAS been done, and the whingers in the pussy hats were just plain wrong?

You didn't watch the hearings and you didn't read the report. Could it be you don't know?

I just watch for the same old news channels, selling the same old products, hucking the same old Russian Collusion conspiracy, and try to pay attention to the more important stories.

Like the one where Trump did a hate-tweet or something, and drew the media and the Dems to that bullshit for DAYS, while he did other, more important stuff out of the scrutiny of the idiots.

[Joe]

I don't care more than one would about a movie, so don't HAVE to go 'deep' in my understanding. I don't mind heckling, or being heckled, but if you didn't get the idea that this is rather casual, I refer you to my name, and fucking near every post I've made.

Yeah, I understand what you tell us about yourself with your name and posts, otherwise I'd bother to inform you of the common law powers of Attorneys General, and why you and Turner are completely full of shit. Naturally, it would be time wasted, like reading poems to a horse.

So Mueller said he did not fail to prosecute because Trump was president, he said just what was in the report, and heaps of people are still chanting 'Russian Collusion'.

Doesn't sound 'Tinfoil-hat' at all, that.

Could it be that justice HAS been done, and the whingers in the pussy hats were just plain wrong?

You didn't watch the hearings and you didn't read the report. Could it be you don't know?

I just watch for the same old news channels, selling the same old products, hucking the same old Russian Collusion conspiracy, and try to pay attention to the more important stories.

Like the one where Trump did a hate-tweet or something, and drew the media and the Dems to that bullshit for DAYS, while he did other, more important stuff out of the scrutiny of the idiots.

I'll take that as a yes.

[Cunt]

Getting back to the topic at hand, it isn't over.

In fact, tubby Democrats agree...

[Joe]

For those who like podcasts, The Report is a good take on Mueller's big, dense, and often boring report. So far, it's focused on the juicy stuff: hacking, active measures, and spying. You know, the parts that didn't get covered that much in the Congressional circuses this week.

[L'Emmerdeur]

First steps taken.

'U.S. House panel seeks grand jury evidence to assess Trump impeachment'

The Democratic-led U.S. House Judiciary Committee asked a federal court on Friday for access to grand jury evidence from the Mueller probe that lawmakers say they need to determine whether to begin impeachment proceedings against President Donald Trump.

Democratic lawyers from the House of Representatives filed a 53-page petition in U.S. District Court seeking permission to review evidence involving interactions between Trump campaign officials and Russian agents, and Trump’s alleged efforts to direct former White House Counsel Don McGahn to remove Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

The action moved the House one step closer to impeachment, a politically contentious issue that has divided Democrats as Congress prepares to pivot to the 2020 election season.

“We have just given notice that we are actively considering articles of impeachment ... that is as serious a step as we should take at this time,” an attorney for the committee told reporters during a background briefing held after the filing.

Four members of the committee released a statement via The Atlantic:

Three months ago, Special Counsel Robert Mueller completed his investigation into Russian election interference and President Donald Trump’s obstruction of justice. When the redacted report finally became available to Congress and the American people, it painted a damning picture of a corrupt president who welcomed and encouraged an attack on our country, capitalized on it, and then tried to cover up what he had done.

During his press conference announcing the end of his investigation, Mueller pointed out that the Department of Justice believes “the Constitution requires a process other than the criminal-justice system to formally accuse a sitting president of wrongdoing.” He was referring, without using the word, to impeachment—a process by which the U.S. House indicts, and the Senate convicts, a sitting president.

Congress has patiently tried to work within traditional means to get to the bottom of this extraordinary situation. Committees have called witnesses and requested evidence, only to be stonewalled by Trump and his associates. The president’s refusal to comply with the Constitution, statutes, and established congressional oversight defies the rule of law.

Mueller’s testimony before the House Judiciary and Intelligence Committees was a watershed moment. At this point, it is up to Congress to act on the evidence of multiple counts of obstruction of justice committed by the president, and to continue our investigation into whether he has committed other high crimes and misdemeanors.

Despite assertions to the contrary by the president and his allies, the special counsel’s report and testimony are not the end of our investigations. We have now filed a petition in court to obtain the grand-jury documents referenced in the special counsel’s report. In that filing, we have made clear that we will utilize our Article I powers to obtain the additional underlying evidence, as well as enforce subpoenas for key witness testimony, and broaden our investigations to include conflicts of interest and financial misconduct.

While many people believe that beginning an impeachment investigation can begin only with a vote of the full House of Representatives, this is not true. Article I authorizes the House Judiciary Committee to begin this process.

As members of the House Judiciary Committee, we understand the gravity of this moment that we find ourselves in. We wake up every morning with the understanding of the oath that binds us as members of Congress, and the trust that our constituents placed in us to uphold that oath. We will move forward with the impeachment process. Our investigation will seriously examine all the evidence as we consider whether to bring articles of impeachment or other remedies under our Article I powers.

Our Constitution requires it. Our democracy depends on it.

[Joe]

Our Constitution requires it. Our democracy depends on it.

And it's at least as important as Benghazi, right?