All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:21 am

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Perhaps you should have listened more closely. I'm only a couple of hours into the first hearing and he's been accused of exonerating Joseph Mifsud and Christopher Steele. You did watch the whole two hearings, and read the report, right? :{D
No need to watch yesterdays festivities. It was all a show for something or other.
Of course you won't watch it. You don't do evidence and facts.
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To me, that was more of a hypothetical, simply confirming that some legal moves that are not possible on a sitting President are possible once he leaves office...
Yeah, that's what I got too.
I certainly didn't get that. Although, I was only half watching.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Joe » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:22 am

Yeah, that was Ken Buck. He caught some flak from fellow Republicans, but I don't think he cares. He has a habit of going his own way, and said he wanted to clarify his understanding.

Besides, it's in the report, on page 1 of Volume II.
Second, while the OLC opinion concludes that a sitting President may not be prosecuted, it recognizes that a criminal investigation during the President's term is permissible. The OLC opinion also recognizes that a President does not have immunity after he leaves office. And if individuals other than the President committed an obstruction offense, they may be prosecuted at this time. Given those considerations, the facts known to us, and the strong public interest in safeguarding the integrity of the criminal justice system, we conducted a thorough factual investigation in order to preserve the evidence when memories were fresh and documentary materials were available .
Makes sense to me, and in light of the fact the report did exonerate Trump of criminal conspiracy in Russian election interference, it suggests they thought some or all of the obstruction analysis might be prosecutable in the future.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Joe » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:27 am

Cunt wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:19 am
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Perhaps you should have listened more closely. I'm only a couple of hours into the first hearing and he's been accused of exonerating Joseph Mifsud and Christopher Steele. You did watch the whole two hearings, and read the report, right? :{D
No need to watch yesterdays festivities. It was all a show for something or other.

See, he even got a letter from the boss, saying he wouldn't say anything beyond what was in the report.

So yesterday didn't change anything, doesn't matter. Lots of people are screeching about it being significant, but we'll see. It could be that the handsome, forgetful old codger really did know the material, but as a true patriot, can not reveal what he knows for national security reasons.
No need to know what you're talking about in other words. Nothing personal Cunt, but that's one reason I don't credit your opinion much.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:32 am

Joe wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:22 am
Yeah, that was Ken Buck. He caught some flak from fellow Republicans, but I don't think he cares. He has a habit of going his own way, and said he wanted to clarify his understanding.

Besides, it's in the report, on page 1 of Volume II.
Second, while the OLC opinion concludes that a sitting President may not be prosecuted, it recognizes that a criminal investigation during the President's term is permissible. The OLC opinion also recognizes that a President does not have immunity after he leaves office. And if individuals other than the President committed an obstruction offense, they may be prosecuted at this time. Given those considerations, the facts known to us, and the strong public interest in safeguarding the integrity of the criminal justice system, we conducted a thorough factual investigation in order to preserve the evidence when memories were fresh and documentary materials were available .
Makes sense to me, and in light of the fact the report did exonerate Trump of criminal conspiracy in Russian election interference, it suggests they thought some or all of the obstruction analysis might be prosecutable in the future.
Sounds reasonable, and might explain why he was acting so confused about plain facts. He had a 'running out the clock' vibe going, but again, that sounds like a bit of conspiracy.

Sure, some others might be prosecuted after the term is done (Trump included) but it's also possible it's connected to the stuff boiling up in terms of increased numbers of sealed indictments, other suspicious coincidences...

I don't care more than one would about a movie, so don't HAVE to go 'deep' in my understanding. I don't mind heckling, or being heckled, but if you didn't get the idea that this is rather casual, I refer you to my name, and fucking near every post I've made.

In other rumours, McAfee recently threatened to release some VERY damning information. Then nothing happened.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:18 am

Why are you so scared of evidence and facts? I suspect it is because you don't want your biases challenged.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Seabass » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:14 am

Blue states really need to stop forking over cash to the red states. Seriously. How will the rubes learn to stop voting Republican, if they never have to suffer the full consequences?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Seabass » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:29 am

In the End, In the Most Understated Way Possible, Robert Mueller Conveyed His Disdain for Donald Trump
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... hical.html
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SCHIFF: I’d like to see if we can broaden the aperture at the end of the hearing. From your testimony today, I gather that you believe that knowingly accepting foreign assistance during a presidential campaign is an unethical thing to do.

MUELLER: And a crime.

SCHIFF: And a crime.

MUELLER: And a crime in given circumstances.

SCHIFF: And to the degree that it undermines our democracy and institutions, we can agree that it’s also unpatriotic.

MUELLER: True.

SCHIFF: And wrong.

MUELLER: True.
It was only a quick back-and-forth, and in the strict sense Schiff’s questions were hypothetical. But it followed another exchange in which Mueller, after being shown a slide of Trump’s enthusiastic comments about WikiLeaks’ publication of Democratic emails, responded that to call the president’s remarks about the stolen material “problematic” would be “an understatement”; it also took place just after Mueller told Florida Rep. Val Demings* that it would be “generally” fair to say that the president’s written answers to investigators’ questions were not entirely truthful or complete. If you cared to hear it, the message was there: After two years, Schiff was able to get Mueller to be as direct as he’s ever going to be about judging the way that Donald Trump and the people close to him conducted themselves in 2016—and we learned that the words that Mueller thinks it’s fair to use to describe that conduct are ones like unethical, criminal, unpatriotic, and simply wrong. True, indeed.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Seabass » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:41 am

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Man behind fake presidential seal is former Republican who opposes Trump
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A source familiar with the event emphasized to CNN that there was "zero malicious intent" behind the image. The source added that the mistake stemmed from a Google search mistake.

"One of our video team members did a Google Image search for a high-res png (file) presidential seal," a source said, adding that the individual "did the search and with the pressure of the event, didn't notice that it is a doctored seal."
Leazott told The Post that Trump appearing in front of the seal is now the background image on his computer. He addd that the person responsible for the incident is “either wildly incompetent or the best troll ever — either way, I love them.”

"I’ve got to be honest, I am so tickled in the most petty way possible that the president of the United States, who I despise, stood up and gave a talk in front of this graphic," he said. "Whoever put that up is my absolute hero.”
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by tattuchu » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:12 am

Seabass wrote:
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A source familiar with the event emphasized to CNN that there was "zero malicious intent" behind the image. The source added that the mistake stemmed from a Google search mistake.
"One of our video team members did a Google Image search for a high-res png (file) presidential seal," a source said, adding that the individual "did the search and with the pressure of the event, didn't notice that it is a doctored seal."
From RawStory:
"Turning Point USA say they have fired the staffer who was responsible for dredging up the image and putting it on screen behind Trump, but insist that it was probably an honest mistake. Leazott believes that it wasn’t, and that it would have taken a deliberate effort to obtain that image."
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:08 pm

Biden leads Trump by 10 points in Fox poll
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... _election/
Warren still failing. Not sure if because the same voters were voting for multiple people. too many questions?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:14 pm

Sleepy Joe is going to take it in 2020, as long as it doesn't interfere with his nap.

And as long as he can weather the 'racist old white guy' vibe the squad have going for him.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:12 pm

It's the only name voters know. Maybe if Warren went by Pocahontas her numbers would improve. :sigh:
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:15 pm

Is this guy the great white hope of the Dems?
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:17 pm

Why do you suppose Trump went with 'Sleepy Joe', and not 'Creepy Joe'?
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