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Re: Media Bias

Post by Seabass » Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:52 pm

Eh? We don't have an official propaganda outlet. I suppose one could say the press secretary would be the closest... :dunno:
"His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it." —From the OSS’s psychological profile of Adolf Hitler

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Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:01 pm

Voice of America ?
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Post by Cunt » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:02 pm

https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/22/jess ... ool-party/

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Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:03 pm

I was afraid you'd say that Seabass. So, how do we disseminate propaganda?

If it's not official, how can I protect myself?
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Post by Seabass » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:04 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:01 pm
Voice of America ?
Yeah, there's that. It operates overseas...
"His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it." —From the OSS’s psychological profile of Adolf Hitler

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Post by JimC » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:09 pm

...sponsored by the CIA...
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Post by Cunt » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:13 pm

...brought to you by ANTIFA, sponsors of the Andy Ngo Memorial Beating
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Seabass » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:20 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:03 pm
I was afraid you'd say that Seabass. So, how do we disseminate propaganda?
How do we define propaganda? Is Fox News propaganda?
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Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:03 pm
If it's not official, how can I protect myself?
Trustworthy fact-checkers, media watchdogs, variety, and common sense, I guess... :dunno:

Of course there's also still new orgs that try to maintain impartiality like AP, Reuters, McClatchy for example. PBS, NBC, CBS, ABC news tend to be pretty neutral...
"His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it." —From the OSS’s psychological profile of Adolf Hitler

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:38 pm

Seabass wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:20 pm
Sean Hayden wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:03 pm
I was afraid you'd say that Seabass. So, how do we disseminate propaganda?
How do we define propaganda? Is Fox News propaganda?
Sean Hayden wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:03 pm
If it's not official, how can I protect myself?
Trustworthy fact-checkers, media watchdogs, variety, and common sense, I guess... :dunno:

Of course there's also still new orgs that try to maintain impartiality like AP, Reuters, McClatchy for example. PBS, NBC, CBS, ABC news tend to be pretty neutral...
I like to see how media describes a character I know. For instance, they often misrepresent some people as racist, or otherwise suitable for de-platforming (Lindsay Shepard is a fine example) but when you know what really happened, it is more of a story about the media than anything else.

How they report on things (or fail to) can show some facts about the media. Much more rarely, the mainstream media can show some facts about news.

I'm still waiting for them to drag a bunch of wealthy celebreties through the mud...the Epstein case should provide lurid stories for quite some time, and that will REALLY sell a lot of advertising space. Heck, they might even cut back on some of their lay-offs.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:59 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:01 pm
Voice of America ?
I know that some conservatives have renamed NPR as 'National People's Radio.'

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:38 am

Ah the old days. :{D

Listening on the Short Wave to "Voice of America" and its anti-communist tirade and then switching over to "Radio Moscow" complaining about the USA and its "running dogs". Radio Moscow had better English.
I also listened amongst many other stations to a certain "Radio Hilversum" which I thought was some form of German. I was at time given as small child often receives, a folder of writing paper from a "Hotel Kurhaus" in place called Scheveningen, which is now five minutes from where I live now, from family acquaintances. I have had afternoon tea many times there. Strange old world sometimes.

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:37 am

Cunt wrote:...brought to you by ANTIFA, sponsors of the Andy Ngo Memorial Beating
Oh look, manufactured #OUTRAGE at milkshakes while ignoring 300+ Alt-Right murders since 9/11 - again.

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:41 am

"What we do is justified. What they do is an outrage". Fascist mentality.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:46 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:37 am
Cunt wrote:...brought to you by ANTIFA, sponsors of the Andy Ngo Memorial Beating
Oh look, manufactured #OUTRAGE at milkshakes while ignoring 300+ Alt-Right murders since 9/11 - again.
I'm not ignoring anything. Just pointing out an assault, which led to injury.

You seem to be good with it, but the US authorities have asked their law enforcement to investigate them for organized crime activity.

Keep defending them! Why don't you call me a Nazi or something, for defending Ngo without knowing what kind of news he reports?

If you want to show me another journalist being beaten, I'll condemn it. Even if they are shitty journalists.

Will you? If Tommy Robinson is killed in prison, how will that suit you, from a 'justice' point of view?
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Hermit » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:25 pm

Cunt wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:46 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:37 am
Cunt wrote:...brought to you by ANTIFA, sponsors of the Andy Ngo Memorial Beating
Oh look, manufactured #OUTRAGE at milkshakes while ignoring 300+ Alt-Right murders since 9/11 - again.
I'm not ignoring anything. Just pointing out an assault, which led to injury.

You seem to be good with it, but the US authorities have asked their law enforcement to investigate them for organized crime activity.

Keep defending them! Why don't you call me a Nazi or something, for defending Ngo without knowing what kind of news he reports?

If you want to show me another journalist being beaten, I'll condemn it. Even if they are shitty journalists.

Will you? If Tommy Robinson is killed in prison, how will that suit you, from a 'justice' point of view?
Andy Ngo is an anti anti-fascist propagandist who intentionally placed himself within a swinging arm's distance from said antifas, and with the full knowledge that he will likely be hit by milkshakes and fists, his mental state is really problematic.

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Andy Ngo was hardly a random bystander: The 33-year-old is suddenly one of the most prominent young figures in all of right-wing media. He made his name in part through his activism...
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