Republicans: continued

[L'Emmerdeur]

Bizarre fight breaks out in House over whether socialists are Nazis
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/ ... te-1237472

This inane debate began on Monday when conservative hardliner Rep. Mo Brooks (Ala.) went to the House floor to berate the Democrats and the media for pushing the “big lie” that President Donald Trump or his campaign may have colluded with Russian officials during the 2016 presidential campaign. Special counsel Robert Mueller didn’t find any evidence to back up the collusion allegation following a nearly two-year probe, according to Attorney General William Barr.

Barr’s bombshell announcement led to Brooks’ outburst, which in turn led to discussion about whether socialists are Nazis because they both use the word “socialist” in their title.

“A ‘big lie’ is a political propaganda technique made famous by Germany’s National Socialist German Workers' Party,” Brooks said in his floor speech Monday. Brooks quoted from Adolf Hitler's book "Mein Kampf" about the use of the "big lie" tactic to dominate political struggles, and the Alabama Republican claimed that's what Democrats did to Trump over the Russia allegations.

“For more than two years, Socialist Democrats and their fake news media allies, CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, Washington Post, and countless others … have perpetrated the biggest political lie, con, scam and fraud in American history," Brooks declared.

Brooks also said — incorrectly — that Hitler was a socialist. “The author was Socialist Adolph Hitler in his book, 'Mein Kampf,'” the Alabama Republican claimed.

Of course, this isn’t true. The Nazi Party, officially the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, was fascist, not socialist — the opposite end of the political universe from socialists. But that hasn’t stopped other Republicans from jumping in as well.

On Tuesday, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas), another of the more bombastic GOP lawmakers, waded into the “Socialists are the same as Nazis” flap.

'Nazis were leftist socialists!' is a common canard coming from the more doctrinaire or extreme right. In any event, Hitler wasn't writing about himself or the Nazis--according to him it was the Jews who used the 'Big Lie.' The dipshit Brooks is following in Hitler's footsteps when he demonizes the Democratic party as perpetrators of the Big Lie.

[Brian Peacock]

Actually, it's the reverse, Nazis were a right wing form of socialism, but socialists are rarely nazis, if only because it takes full blown communism to reach that degree of totalitarianism.

It clearly a distraction tactic to keep the political discussion focused on the moral impoverishment of the Democratic Party. The idea that the US Democratic Party are hardliners of any strip is, frankly, quite laughable.

If Democrats are socialist nazis then everyone who voted for them must be socialist nazis too. But if the Democrats were really anything like proper socialist nazis then the Republicans would be keeping very, very quite about it.

[Hermit]

Every time some dipstick regurgitates the old canard of Nazis being socialists I wait for them to follow on with one that claims North Koreans are republicans. After all, it says so in the nation's name. It's the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

Alas, I'm still waiting.

[JimC]

Labels are unimportant.

"By their fruits ye shall know them"

Proving, once more, that the devil can quote scripture...

[pErvinalia]

Actually, it's the reverse, Nazis were a right wing form of socialism, but socialists are rarely nazis, if only because it takes full blown communism to reach that degree of totalitarianism.

It clearly a distraction tactic to keep the political discussion focused on the moral impoverishment of the Democratic Party. The idea that the US Democratic Party are hardliners of any strip is, frankly, quite laughable.

If Democrats are socialist nazis then everyone who voted for them must be socialist nazis too. But if the Democrats were really anything like proper socialist nazis then the Republicans would be keeping very, very quite about it.

So are we punching democrats now?

[Brian Peacock]

I'll hold yer beer.

[Tero]

translation: we tried this, we are not doing shit
on your own Trump

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[L'Emmerdeur]

He doesn't need them if he can get the US Supreme Court to do his bidding.

[Joe]

Trump Derangement Syndrome, right?

Republican operatives fear putting fundraising data in Trump's hands

The Republican Party’s efforts to build a small-dollar donation machine to keep up with the Democrats has hit a wall: a deep mistrust of President Trump and his campaign among Republican operatives.

Republican brass are crafting a new online fundraising tool to match the Democrats’ small-dollar fundraising juggernaut that helped carry them to victory in the 2018 midterm elections. But some GOP operatives who would be the ones to purchase the tool don’t want Trump and his family raiding their campaign lists for their own benefit, said campaign consultants reached by Yahoo News.

“They’re scared of adopting it. Imagine Trump owning our data — handing everything over to that guy, the guy who f****s with everybody, who has destroyed our party,” said a senior consultant for a conservative political group with national clients.

[Seabass]

This lunatic is clearly in need of an exorcism.

[pErvinalia]

Holy crap! What a freak.

[JimC]

The Christian mind virus is a very effective meme...

[L'Emmerdeur]

That was a ceremonial invocation, in keeping with the 'tradition' of the United States, and unless it's part of a 'pattern of prayers that over time denigrate, proselytize, or betray an impermissible government purpose,' the US Supreme Court says it's just fine.

[Forty Two]

Actually, it's the reverse, Nazis were a right wing form of socialism, but socialists are rarely nazis, if only because it takes full blown communism to reach that degree of totalitarianism.

It clearly a distraction tactic to keep the political discussion focused on the moral impoverishment of the Democratic Party. The idea that the US Democratic Party are hardliners of any strip is, frankly, quite laughable.

What? Really? And, here I've been lectured many times that the Democrats are actually "far right" when you look at proper political spectra around the world....

If Democrats are socialist nazis then everyone who voted for them must be socialist nazis too. But if the Democrats were really anything like proper socialist nazis then the Republicans would be keeping very, very quite about it.

The whole "Nazis were socialists, it's in the name" thing is a canard. The Nazi Party began with a socialist wing, and they were promptly forced out when Hitler took over. However, Nazis were very anti-capitalist. Fascism and Naziism shared the idea that it's "corporatism." Coporatism is the organization of society by corporate groups, such as agricultural, labour, military, scientific, or guild associations on the basis of their common interests - and it basically involves government control of sectors - and it's antithetical to a free market. Hitler hated capitalism, because Naziism and fascism demand that private ships should sail in the State-mandated direction....you can't have people free to manufacture what they want - they are told to manufacture what the state needs - to that extent, it shares a characteristic with socialism (but still can't be described as "socialist"). In modern day America, unsuccessful attempts were made to create neo-corporatist capital-labor arrangements by Gary Hart and Michael Dukakis in the 1980s. As secretary of labor during the Clinton administration, Robert Reich promoted neo-corporatist reforms..

[Brian Peacock]

Go tell a Republican.