Yet more problematic stuff

[Forty Two]

How tolerant are you of devout Christian literalists who donate money to anti-LGBT groups and oppose same-sex marriage? Would you say super-tolerant?

As long as they are cooked properly, I tolerate them reasonably well, thank you.

I wouldn't eat the Christian literalists, but they do make a good chicken sandwich, I'll say that much for them.

[Svartalf]

I don't know about sandwiches, but I'd like to verify if the brainless condition of literalists would be contagious before eating them, or even talking to them.

[Forty Two]

I've found that most Christian literalists don't literally take the Bible literally.

What they're referring to is the "truth" of the Bible, which they don't want to say "isn't literally true" because they want to believe it's true, but the concept of "figuratively true" isn't one most people want to get involved in. saying something isn't literally true leaves one open to the allegation that what they are saying isn't true because it's "just a metaphor" or something like that. However, metaphors can express truths, even if the metaphor does not recount literal events .

If you open up the Bible to proverbs or the Song of Solomon, for example, it's impossible to say much of that is "literally" true, because it's poetry and sayings and stuff that aren't meant to be recounting events, but rather communicating concepts. The Parables of Jesus are not meant to be historical events - they are extended allegories or short stories meant to convey a truth, but not an actual event.

Also, many areas in the Blble use flat out literary devices like metaphors - Matthew 5 -- "You are the salt of the Earth." "You are the light of the world." - the people spoken to there are not literally salt or literally light. They are figuratively salt and figuratively light, and it's only in the figurative sense that the quotes speak any truth.

Now I'm going off to Chik-fil-A and get me a nice chicken sandwich, and I won't give a single fuck about whether they think same sex marriage is good or trans should be allowed in opposite sex bathrooms.

[Svartalf]

literalists are by definition, taking up the bible literally.
people to take the babble figuratively are, by definition, not literalists.

[Forty Two]

literalists are by definition, taking up the bible literally.
people to take the babble figuratively are, by definition, not literalists.

Indeed, I know that. You know that. But the people who call themselves literalists, in fact, don't take the Bible literally literally - they take the bible figuratively literally.

It's kind of like when someone, in a secular context, says that "he literally dropped a bomb at the party last night..." The person didn't literally drop a bomb -- the person isn't using the word literally literally. what they really mean is that it's "really really" something that happened - it's more of an emphasis.

Biblical literalists don't mean that a person really is made of salt, when he is salt of the Earth. What they mean is that the words in the Bible are really, really true - God breathed words - and there is no way they are not "true." Again, they confuse "literal" and "true."

[Svartalf]

he dropped a bomb? you mean an extremely loud and smelly fart I suppose? or did he admit to scorning niggers is a coloured rich environment?

[Joe]

literalists are by definition, taking up the bible literally.
people to take the babble figuratively are, by definition, not literalists.

Indeed, I know that. You know that. But the people who call themselves literalists, in fact, don't take the Bible literally literally - they take the bible figuratively literally.

It's kind of like when someone, in a secular context, says that "he literally dropped a bomb at the party last night..." The person didn't literally drop a bomb -- the person isn't using the word literally literally. what they really mean is that it's "really really" something that happened - it's more of an emphasis.

Biblical literalists don't mean that a person really is made of salt, when he is salt of the Earth. What they mean is that the words in the Bible are really, really true - God breathed words - and there is no way they are not "true." Again, they confuse "literal" and "true."

Do you have any evidence to support this assertion? Something along these lines maybe?



Almost 1 in 4 is a significant number, even if the trend is hopeful.

[Brian Peacock]

After playing the 'no true Bible literalist' card that graph cam be dismissed by equivocation - that those who say they are Bible literalists don't actually mean that the Bible is literally true, even while they say it is and act as if it is.

[Joe]

Yeahbut, Gallup is really the literal word of God, and we must bow before its omniscience. A trump card, if you will.

[Svartalf]

Except nobody is omnisicent, as abundantly demonstrated in the OT, like when he haggles with Abraham as to how many Just men must be found in Sodom for him to stay his hand, or how he makes Saul kings of the Jews, then retracts his favor from him after he commits some kind of sacrilege.

[Brian Peacock]

Yeahbut, Gallup is really the literal word of God, and we must bow before its omniscience. A trump card, if you will.

Damn your so-called facts, and the #FAKENEWS they rode in on!

[Joe]

I do love riding into Gallup on a Saturday night bringing the #FAKENEWS with me.



Especially if I can rustle up some Navajo fry bread.

[Svartalf]

wait ? Navaho fry bread is really a thing? I've read something mentioning it, but could never compare it with actual fact, can you correlate stuff and tell me what it is?

[Joe]

Sure, it's a traditional bread you can get in New Mexico and Arizona that's like a sopapilla's big brother. It's wonderful comfort food, and I enjoy it with honey, although it makes a good taco too.

[Svartalf]

I'll believe that, it concords with what little data I had.