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Re: America's History Fibs

Post by Forty Two » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:41 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:59 pm
:hehe: ...these guys don't actually know what's taught in US schools.

It's not the first time I've encountered this either. We often get Europeans who think Americans understand American/Indian relations at about the kindergarten level for example.

Why is that?
Concisely put.

George Washington really couldn't tell a lie, and the cherry tree story is really true. He really did threw a silver dollar across the Potomac River. He really had wooden teeth!

Come on folks. Every culture has myths and legends and lore.

The silver dollar legend is funnier too because the legend evolved too - the guy who wrote the story did not say it was the Potomac, he said it was the Rappahannock River. LOL. Basically, it's legend from a kernel of truth where people are said to have tested their strength throwing rocks across the Rappahannock, which not many people cold do. Not sure if that bit is even "true."

But, oh, those silly, stupid Americans... we go to high school and college and learn a series of lies.
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Re: America's History Fibs

Post by Svartalf » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:46 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:59 pm
:hehe: ...these guys don't actually know what's taught in US schools.

It's not the first time I've encountered this either. We often get Europeans who think Americans understand American/Indian relations at about the kindergarten level for example.

Why is that?
What? :o I mean, I've got a nuncle who's about 50 some or early 60s, mix of new yorker and californian, I'm not sure even this former hippie is among the few who actually understand US/Amerind relations and history...

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Re: America's History Fibs

Post by Forty Two » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:29 pm

What percentage of French "actually understand" French colonial history. No glossing over of French empire stuff? You think they tell the story of their relationship with Britain the same way British pop culture and children's history tell it?

Do they think the French Revolution was started by a peasant revolt against the "Let Them Eat Cake" class? Or do they know all about the financial crisis which led to state bankruptcy, loss of confidence in the monarchy, political destabilization and many nobles and elite class folks rebelling?

Do they know Marie never said "Let them Eat Cake" or anything like that? Do they recognize that Marie leaked French battle plans to the invading Austrians, hoping that the French armies would lose and the monarchy would be restored?

Legends of the importance of the storming of the Bastilles?

Robespierre! Robespierre!

Let's pick some random Frenchman and see how deep his knowledge goes, and then claim that the entire culture has been hoodwinked by nefarious forces white-washing the historical record.
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Re: America's History Fibs

Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:36 pm

A "nuncle"? Very Vlaams (nonkel).
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Post by Rum » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:06 pm

The French have had to develop some real whoppers to gloss over the German occupation...for example.

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Post by Svartalf » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:08 pm

well, Marshal Pétain was a genius while he was possessed by extraterrestrial intelligences, but when they left his brains turned to jell o
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Re: America's History Fibs

Post by Cunt » Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:14 pm

Forty Two wrote:
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I can't refute the person's allegations, but it's not as if I have ever said that racism is nonexistent. Of course there are racists out there. What I said was that the general culture in the US is not to tolerate that stuff, and to look down on racists, and to fire racists, and hound them out of positions of authority. We just had Watson stripped of his honors and position because he said he thinks that intelligence is partly genetic and that certain races have different IQs.
Some progressive idiots claim racism is 'rampant' or some inflammatory description, but they won't apply a standard of any kind. Won't say which country is most, and which is least 'racist'. Won't say which country is the best place to be a minority, or which has the best 'diversity' approach. If they did name a target, people could actually meet it.

You can't have that. What the 'Racial-Justice-Warriors' want is unending apologies and cringing.

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Re: America's History Fibs

Post by Rum » Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:51 pm

Watched the last of these (there were three in all) and it was by far the best. She covered the ‘golden’ decade of the 50s and the rise of America to the world’s premier power, including the fear and paranoia that drove it. A good look at the Cold War and the ‘military industrial complex that made the whole process white hot. A chilling scene inside a missile bunker doing a role play of launching an attack.

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:15 pm

YouTube has been pulling them down shortly after they get uploaded, but some of the British History's Biggest Fibs episodes can be found. I wasn't paying attention; perhaps some English nationalists brayed like wounded jackasses when they came out. Ms. Worsley rocks.

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Post by Animavore » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:20 pm

The British would never get in a tizzy over someone presenting raw history which goes in the face of their lionized view.

Or would they...?


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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:31 pm

Rum wrote:
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Watched the last of these (there were three in all) and it was by far the best. She covered the ‘golden’ decade of the 50s and the rise of America to the world’s premier power, including the fear and paranoia that drove it. A good look at the Cold War and the ‘military industrial complex that made the whole process white hot. A chilling scene inside a missile bunker doing a role play of launching an attack.

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Re: America's History Fibs

Post by Alan B » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:12 pm

What was interesting was the snippet about the 'Cuban Missile Crisis' which was 'blown-up' into 'evil Russia threatening the US of A'. It turned out to be nothing more than Kruschev objecting to American missiles on the Turkish border pointing at Russia. So he applied 'Tit-for-Tat' in Cuba. It worked. America removed their Turkish missiles.
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Post by Animavore » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:12 pm

Showing that the US have been getting played by Russia long before President Fuckwit.
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Re: America's History Fibs

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:34 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:31 pm
Rum wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:51 pm
Watched the last of these (there were three in all) and it was by far the best. She covered the ‘golden’ decade of the 50s and the rise of America to the world’s premier power, including the fear and paranoia that drove it. A good look at the Cold War and the ‘military industrial complex that made the whole process white hot. A chilling scene inside a missile bunker doing a role play of launching an attack.

Worth catching if you can.
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Well did it? It happened for the American arms industry and for the GOP. The rest was pure scaremongering. Social democracy had to be killed off and the greatest tool; NATO. NATO never achieved anything except spend a lots of European money buying weapons they never needed which would have been spent on health, education and social services but the was not going to allowed by our American masters.
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Re: America's History Fibs

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:39 pm

Alan B wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:12 pm
What was interesting was the snippet about the 'Cuban Missile Crisis' which was 'blown-up' into 'evil Russia threatening the US of A'. It turned out to be nothing more than Kruschev objecting to American missiles on the Turkish border pointing at Russia. So he applied 'Tit-for-Tat' in Cuba. It worked. America removed their Turkish missiles.
That is all it was. I mean which person in their right mind would ever press "The Button". We cant move to World mk2.
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