rainbow wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:00 pm
Forty Two wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:50 pm
Tero wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:22 pm
Yeah but Hillary’s emails.
Yeah but Trump's... oh, yeah, there isn't any evidence that he did anything wrong.
You don't think that lying to the American people is wrong?
Strange morality
Sure, that's one of the reasons why HIllary is such a cunt.
"It was allowed," referring to her email practices.
"I remember landing under sniper fire..."
Says she "never received nor sent any material that was marked classified" on her private email server while secretary of state.
"There have been more than 270 mass shootings in the United States in the last year alone. That’s where four or more are killed."
"The crowd (in Las Vegas) fled at the sound of gunshots. Imagine the deaths if the shooter had a silencer ..."
"We are now, for the first time ever, energy independent."
Says unlike Tim Kaine, who "invested" in education, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence "slashed education funding."
Says Donald Trump "doesn't make a thing in America."
"You are three times more likely to be able to get a mortgage if you're a white applicant than if you're black or Hispanic, even if you have the same credentials."
"We now have more jobs in solar than we do in oil."
"I am the only candidate on either side who has laid out a specific plan about what I would do to defeat ISIS."
"We now have driven (health care) costs down to the lowest they've been in 50 years."
ISIS is "going to people showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists."
The gun industry is "the only business in America that is wholly protected from any kind of liability."
Says Scott Walker rejected legislation to make college loan payments tax deductible and the result was "to raise taxes on students."
Hedge fund managers "pay less in taxes than nurses and truck drivers."
Says "all my grandparents" immigrated to America.
The number of jobs created and people lifted out of poverty during Bill Clinton’s presidency was "a hundred times" what it was under President Ronald Reagan.
McCain "still thinks it's okay when women don't earn equal pay for equal work."
"I actually started criticizing the war in Iraq before (Obama) did."
Obama "only wants your children to have health insurance."
"It's just outrageous that under President Bush, the National Institutes of Health have been basically decreased in funding."
The punishment visited on Sen. Hillary Clinton for her flagrant, hysterical, repetitive, pathological lying about her visit to Bosnia should be much heavier than it has yet been and should be exacted for much more than just the lying itself. There are two kinds of deliberate and premeditated deceit, commonly known as suggestio falsi and suppressio veri. (Neither of them is covered by the additionally lying claim of having "misspoken.") The first involves what seems to be most obvious in the present case: the putting forward of a bogus or misleading account of events. But the second, and often the more serious, means that the liar in question has also attempted to bury or to obscure something that actually is true. Let us examine how Sen. Clinton has managed to commit both of these offenses to veracity and decency and how in doing so she has rivaled, if not indeed surpassed, the disbarred and perjured hack who is her husband and tutor.
Still, I'm surprised that anyone can be surprised by the Clinton's lies anymore. Frankly, I find them rather comforting in comparison to Obama's new kind of politics, which best I can tell seems to be the same old politics in a new self-righteous package. All politicians lie, and the Clintons more than most. I can't imagine that voters haven't already internalized this reality--which is why I tend to think the explanation for Hillary's plummeting poll numbers must lie elsewhere. Samantha says it's the whining, which is as good an explanation as any.
https://www.weeklystandard.com/michael- ... larys-lies
Similarly, Hillary had presented herself as being a reformist when it came to US healthcare, telling attendees in a speech in 1993 that “it is time for you and for every American to stand up and say to the insurance industry: ‘Enough is enough’.” Nevertheless, Hillary and Bill’s plan for healthcare reform led to a dominance of the four largest insurance companies – Aetna, Prudential, Met Life, and Cigna – with smaller companies muscled out of the competition. Robert Dreyfuss of Physicians for a National Health Program said at the time that “the Clintons are getting away with murder by portraying themselves as opponents of the insurance industry.”
There are also the documented examples of Hillary Clinton receiving vast swathes of money for her Senate campaign, in exchange for diplomatic appearances from her, or visits from her husband. Bill Clinton, while visiting India, had made it clear he would not be visiting Pakistan during his trip. However, an event for Pak-Pac – a Pakistani-American lobby group – was brought forward, and a $50,000 donation made to Hillary’s campaign, for which a letter was written by the former-First Lady, expressing her hope that Bill would, in fact, make it to Pakistan, despite it being led by dictator General Pervez Musharraf at the time. The visit subsequently took place, and Hillary and Bill’s willingness to accept money in exchange for political favours seemed as transparent as ever.
Hitchens laid out many other instances of Hillary’s collaboration with Bill’s questionable activities – including the hiring of the aforementioned Dick Morris as an adviser, and her participation in the slander of women said to be ‘involved’ with Bill (either through infidelities or sexual assaults). Hillary also claimed that she would “crucify” Gennifer Flowers, the woman whom Clinton claimed not to have slept with, a position he changed under oath in 1998. All of this was written in 2000, before Hillary Clinton was announced to become Secretary of State in 2008, which Hitchens described as “a ludicrous disgrace”.
https://www.fanofwords.com/christopher- ... y-clinton/
Only last summer, her goose seemed all but cooked. Every day she offered another Hillary-ous explanation for why as Secretary of State she required two Blackberries linked to unclassified servers. Eventually this babbling brook of prevarication became so tedious
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/12/hil ... -she-well/
When you and your husband have banked $125 million in speaking fees from the odious malefactors of wealth, and you insist that you feel the pain of the middle class. How do you maintain the deadpan after you’ve cashed $300,000 for a half-hour speech at a state university — which fee comes from student dues — and then declaim against crippling student loans?
Small lies are often more revealing, especially when there was no need for them. Claiming, say, that you were named after Sir Edmund Hillary when you were born six years before he became a household name; or that you sought to enlist in the US Marines after years of protesting against the Vietnam War, graduating from Yale Law School and working on the campaigns of Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern; or that you dodged sniper fire on the tarmac in Bosnia, when TV footage shows you strolling across it, smiling.
And what — hello? — about that tweet last September about how ‘Every survivor of sexual assault deserves to be heard, believed, and supported.’ Does that include the women who say they were groped by your husband, and the one who says she was raped? Pace Mary McCarthy on Lillian Hellman: ‘Every word she [says] is a lie, including “and” and “the”.’
Changing one’s position on an issue isn’t the same as lying, but along with the ‘Which lie did I tell?’ thought bubble permanently hovering over Mrs Clinton’s head, one sees too the licked finger held aloft. The American lingo for this is ‘flip-flop,’ as in the rubber sandal thingies you wear on the beach before going inside to give a $200,000 speech to Goldman Sachs.
Mrs Clinton’s flip-flop closet has reached Imelda Marcos levels. There’s the Iraq War vote flip-flop; the gay marriage flip-flop; the Keystone Pipeline flip-flop; the legalising marijuana flip-flop; and most recently, the Trans-Pacific Partnership flip-flop.
And yet, as you work your way down this bill of attainder you feel like an old village scold. Another member of the ‘vast right-wing conspiracy’. A tiresome ancient mariner, banging on at the wedding.
There’s nothing new there. It’s all been gone into, again and again. This election isn’t about the past. It’s about the future.
And before you know it, you too, like Comrade Bernie — the prior version, anyway — are sick and tired of hearing yourself whinge. Because it has all been gone into before. It’s all ‘damn’ stuff now. Mrs and Mr Clinton have been with us since 1992, our political lares et penates — and after all this time, less than half the electorate think she’s honest.
During one of the 2008 Democratic debates, the moderator asked her about the, er, ‘likeability factor’. It was a cringey moment. One’s heart (I say this sincerely) went out to the lady. The shellac deadpan mask melted. She smiled bravely, tears forming, and answered demurely with a hurt, girlish smile and said: ‘Well, that hurts my feelings.’
Whereupon candidate Obama interjected, with the hauteur and sneer of cold command that we’ve come to know so well: ‘You’re likable enough, Hillary.’
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
--sad
