Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

[Brian Peacock]

It depends on what question the politicians decide to try and get away with. In effect there are three options.

Leave with the government's negotiated deal.
Leave without a negotiated deal.
Overturn the 2016 referendum (Remain).

I can't see the government wanting to make it that simple - not with the future of the Conservative Party hanging on the outcome.

However, if it were to happen I would like to see compulsory voting brought in. It's the only way to fairly determine 'the will of the people' at this time.

[Alan B]

I can't see the government wanting to make it that simple - not with the future of the Conservative Party hanging on the outcome.

However, if it were to happen I would like to see compulsory voting brought in. It's the only way to fairly determine 'the will of the people' at this time.

Yep. With an option to abstain on the voting slip (or machine). That will avoid all those mistaken assumptions that the result "is obvious". The "stay aways" will have to get off their arse's and perhaps think.

[Scot Dutchy]

A no-deal appears to be favourite. The tories want it as it is the only option that protects their offshore money. A second referendum is dead. It would open a another can of worms and where is the time. Cancelling art 50 is a nightmare for the Brexiteers. Remember their money.

[Rum]

‘Favourite’? Of whose? The thread is about another referendum, which I really hope there is, but sadly think there won’t be.

[Svartalf]

problem, there are no provisions anywhere to take back the consequences of art.50 once invoked... even if a second referendum was organized in a real hurry, the UK would be booted out of the EU in 3 months, and even if a new referendum countermanded the first, it would likely take years to reintegrate the UK, and undo the damage.

[Brian Peacock]

The European Court has ruled that the UK could unilaterally revoke article 50 if that's what Parliament voted for.

[Svartalf]

They don't have a lot of time, I'm not sure that they can instantly reenter the EU if they vote for it AFTER they've actually exited it...

[Brian Peacock]

No that's right, article 50 could only be revoked before B-Day on 29 March 2019, not after.

[Hermit]

They don't have a lot of time, I'm not sure that they can instantly reenter the EU if they vote for it AFTER they've actually exited it...

No need do re-enter. The UK has not left yet. It remains a member of the EU at least until March 2019.

[JimC]

May I suggest a quantum solution?

Schrodinger's Brexit, where Britain is simultaneously in the EU, and out of the EU...

[Brian Peacock]

...but only until we collapse the wave function by opening the envelope.

[Svartalf]

They don't have a lot of time, I'm not sure that they can instantly reenter the EU if they vote for it AFTER they've actually exited it...

No need do re-enter. The UK has not left yet. It remains a member of the EU at least until March 2019.

In 3 months, they'll be out and on their bums, if they have not voted to repeal the invocation of art 50... and they seem not ready to do so. once the key date passes by, they'll be out without an agreement, and it wil be too late to reenter instantly.... and let me tell you, if they don't repal that article in time, a lot of member countries will be more than happy to make their reintegrating the Union a series of hard hoops to jump through.

[Svartalf]

May I suggest a quantum solution?

Schrodinger's Brexit, where Britain is simultaneously in the EU, and out of the EU...

not practical, schrödinger's quandary implies that the non observed element is simultaneously in 2 states until it is observed, and UK is under constant scrutiny.

[rainbow]

‘Favourite’? Of whose? The thread is about another referendum, which I really hope there is, but sadly think there won’t be.

May's logic is that a new referendum will be divisive.

She can't work out that the division is within the Brexit Camp.

Her deal which is unworkable, and is supported by 60% of the Tories - that is about 20% of the voters
Corbyn's deal which will be different but nobody knows how - about 40% of Labour - that is about 15% of the voters
The "No Deal, No Problem" bunch, who probably have the support of 10%
Figures sucked out of my rear end

That leaves a majority of Remainers, don't knows and don't cares. There is only one possible deal under Remain, so no disunity there.

[Hermit]

They don't have a lot of time, I'm not sure that they can instantly reenter the EU if they vote for it AFTER they've actually exited it...

No need do re-enter. The UK has not left yet. It remains a member of the EU at least until March 2019.

In 3 months, they'll be out and on their bums...

Most likely.

So the UK has not exited the EU just yet, right? Admit it - though your post was somewhat ambiguous it had the smell of someone who forgot about the difference between an application for a divorce and its ratification.