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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Tero » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:26 am

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:05 am

The perennial ass-hat Republican Representative Louie Gohmert went for the full George Soros smear card on a Fox News outlet.

'Fox Business Network Apologizes for Louie Gohmert Spreading Anti-Semitic George Soros Conspiracy'
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) on Thursday morning managed to turn a Fox Business Network discussion about Google and China into a bizarre attack on the right’s favorite bogeyman George Soros.

Fox Business later apologized for the congressman’s comments.

“You mention Orwell, it also reminds me of another George—George Soros,” Gohmert said, making a clumsy transition during his segment. “Because Google is born in a free country and then they go over and help oppress another country.”

“George Soros is supposed to be Jewish, but you wouldn’t know it from the damage he’s inflicted on Israel and the fact that he turned on fellow Jews and helped take the property that they own.”

That wild accusation—or as Gohmert put it “fact”—went unchallenged by host Stuart Varney, who helped steer the conversation back to China.

Gohmert’s comments echo a common right-wing conspiracy theory that Soros—a liberal, billionaire philanthropist—was a Nazi sympathizer or worse during World War II.

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In the following broadcast hour, Varney issued an on-air apology for Gohmert’s remarks: “Congressman Louie Gohmert, for some reason went out of his way to bring up George Soros and made unsubstantiated and false allegations against him. I want to make clear those views are not shared by me, this program or anyone at Fox Business.”
As if the swivel-eyed numbskull Gohmert has ever needed a reason to spout nonsense and lies.

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:22 pm

Gleeful gibbering about 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' may provide gratification to some, but it's not deranged to recognize the harm that Trump is doing to the US as well as the political party that has chosen to grovel at his feet.

'A historian explains when and why America’s worst racists started to love the Republican Party'
At what point in the historical development of today’s Republican Party did it move to the “dark side?”

Does this question appear to be nothing but a partisan slur? If so, then consider a different sort of question: why do all the neo-Nazis take their “alt-right” principles in the Republican direction instead of peddling them to the Democrats? What is it about the Republican Party that attracts them?

In Lincoln’s time, it was the other way around: it was the nineteenth-century Democrats who touted race theory and prided themselves on their “whiteness.” True, there were bigots in the early Republican Party, but the Radical Republicans like Thaddeus Stevens and Charles Sumner were visionary advocates of racial equality and for years it was the “Lincoln Republicans” who held the allegiance of blacks.

Blacks quite properly regarded the Democratic Party as bad news for them.

The Democrats remained the “white man’s party” for the rest of the nineteenth century — and indeed through the age of Woodrow Wilson. But in the 1930s a tremendous change was ushered in through the leadership of people like Eleanor Roosevelt. By 1948, the Democrats were beginning to embrace civil rights, and by the sixties, racist southerners were leaving. By the twenty-first century the Democrats, and not the Republicans, would be the party to put the first African American president in office.

And so our parties changed and evolved.

In our own generation, the Republican Party has changed and transformed itself beyond recognition: it has moved in a direction that is overwhelmingly and catastrophically sinister. But perhaps it can still be redeemed.

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Nothing like this has ever happened in America before. We have had some bad presidents, mediocre presidents, crooked presidents, but never before has the White House occupant given us a daily torrent of hallucinatory abuse, spewing insults in every direction.

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He is interested in protecting certain kinds of people — himself, the members of his selfish family, the rich, the powerful, the tyrants like Vladimir Putin who subvert the democratic process. But the weak — the victims of hurricanes in Puerto Rico, the refugees who come here seeking asylum, a haven, a chance to contribute to America — he subjects to a level of abuse that is completely insane. He ridicules, vilifies, persecutes, and demonizes them with a sadistic kind of relish that is almost in itself demonic. And the members of his “base” just love it.

Republican leaders in general are terrified of this “base,” so they conform and evade their civic duty.

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How on earth did such a thing happen?

It took a long time. It started in the nineties when Republicans like Newt Gingrich, Tom DeLay, and Dick Armey tried to nullify the presidency of Bill Clinton with their scorched-earth tactics. The same thing was done to the presidency of Obama by the so-called “Freedom Caucus” in the House. Sarah Palin made far-right lunacy a breakthrough force in American politics when John McCain made the dreadful mistake of putting her on his ticket in 2008. It started a contagion: suddenly conspiracy theorists and crackpots of all descriptions were spreading their sickness.

In the Senate, Ted Cruz made the politics of far-right extremism so corrosive that he became a pariah. But that didn’t really matter to him since he represented the force that was taking over the Republican Party. The Republican Speaker of the House John Boehner said that Cruz was “Lucifer incarnate.” That was after Boehner had decided to resign and give up on politics.

Scores of Republican moderates began to give up on politics — in despair. As they did so, the Koch Brothers poured their endless millions into targeted campaigns to get rid of the moderates who were left.

Fox and Breitbart “News” provided powerful platforms for strange new fanatics like Sean Hannity and Steve Bannon. Meanwhile, the first African American presidency triggered a reflex in thousands of racists, who emerged from deep in the woodwork. The “alt right” began a revival of neo-Nazi ideas. They took over from the isolated “skinheads” who had pioneered the work in the nineties.

The trend reached critical mass in election year 2016 when a rich degenerate with no inhibitions showed the world what a strategy composed of shameless ranting can do to the electoral process — ranting that continues without intermission and that ramifies day after day through the new technological catastrophe known as “social media.” An eruption of primitivism from nameless underground sources began to contaminate our public life. “Trolls,” as people called them, were empowered and began to call the shots.

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The decent members of the party — and there are millions of them, ordinary people who refuse to believe that such degeneration can happen in a party that they and their families have supported over so many years — may awaken, rub their eyes, and see that only people like themselves can give us back the party of Abraham Lincoln, of Theodore Roosevelt, and Dwight Eisenhower.

Do they feel powerless? If so, they must begin to consider all the ways in which decent people can empower themselves.

Stranger things have happened in America. But the cleansing of the once-magnificent Republican Party may take a long time.

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Cunt » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:10 pm

Speaking of 'Trump Derangement Syndrome', why not tell us what the best three things he has done, as president?
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:24 pm

What has he done? Go on tell us the truth; what has he done? I will tell you. He has turned the world into a much more dangerous place. He is the biggest waste of space. An oxygen stealer. He should be locked up.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Hermit » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:33 pm

Cunt wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:10 pm
Speaking of 'Trump Derangement Syndrome', why not tell us what the best three things he has done, as president?
That's like asking when I have stopped beating my wife.

No, seriously now, Trump's greatest achievement by far - and let me tell you, this not only has the bigliest impact on the US of A, but is of the most tremendous benefit to the entire planet - is to end global warming by declaring it to be a Chinese conspiracy. Pure genius, that.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Cunt » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:23 pm

You guys are making my point for me.

If Trump cured cancer, you would all bitch that oncologists are now out of work.
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Post by BarnettNewman » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:45 pm

Cunt wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:23 pm
You guys are making my point for me.

If Trump cured cancer, you would all bitch that oncologists are now out of work.
That’s not how Trump put it...

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Cunt » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:46 pm

Yup.

And of every act he has taken, Trump Derangement Syndrome prevents most people from seeing it as a positive.

Especially in front of people.
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Post by BarnettNewman » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:50 pm

I don’t think you understand the nature of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Even posing the possibility that Trump would and could cure cancer is laughable. He’s a cult leader, that’s about it.

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Post by Hermit » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:51 pm

Cunt wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:23 pm
You guys are making my point for me.

If Trump cured cancer, you would all bitch that oncologists are now out of work.
Not at all. I really do admire Trump for having abolished global warming. If he does anything else of note that improves society I will acknowledge that and praise him for it too.

Coito Two has listed a whole slew of Trump's achievements, but I am afraid I did not find his claims convincing. What would convince me is solid evidence that on average the US workers would be better off as a result of Trump's policies. An increase in employment that is no different on a pro rata basis to increases in employment in previous years at the same shitty rates as the previous 30 or 40 years is not particularly impressive. In fact the attempt to portray it as such amounts to lying with statistics.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Cunt » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:54 pm

How about peace on the Korean peninsula? Or was that Obama?
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Post by Hermit » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:33 pm

Cunt wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:54 pm
How about peace on the Korean peninsula? Or was that Obama?
Korea was at war until Trump made peace?
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Svartalf » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:39 pm

technically, trump did not make peace, and the peninsula still is at war, though it seems relationships between the two halves are warmer than they used to, and a lasting peace may ensue.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:05 pm

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