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Re: Republicans

Post by Seabass » Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:27 pm

Christ on a crouton. It's time for the Republicans to be honest and change their name to the Third World Christian Fundie Party.
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Re: Republicans

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:00 pm

Forty Two wrote:At least we know straight from the horse's mouth - see the NY Times Op Ed - that Trump is not a Republican. He is described as a President who has acted contrary to "long held conservative ideals" and it's only a few bright spots, achieved "despite" Trump, not because of him, where good things that conservative Republicans support have happened.....

See - if you take the NY Times OP ED guy at his word, Trump is still hated by the establishment Republicans and is acting contrary to their wishes. If anyone should be supportive of that, it's non-Republicans!
Yeah, that's because he's the most liberal President since Bonaparte.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:27 am

And unlike Bonaparte he is a champion of world peace.
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Re: Republicans

Post by Joe » Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:10 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:18 pm
At least we know straight from the horse's mouth - see the NY Times Op Ed - that Trump is not a Republican. He is described as a President who has acted contrary to "long held conservative ideals" and it's only a few bright spots, achieved "despite" Trump, not because of him, where good things that conservative Republicans support have happened.....

See - if you take the NY Times OP ED guy at his word, Trump is still hated by the establishment Republicans and is acting contrary to their wishes. If anyone should be supportive of that, it's non-Republicans!
That's a big if Forty Two, taking this anonymous tattler at his, her, or their word.

I'll go with the fact the 88% of the Republicans who voted, voted for Trump. The GOP owns this guy, whether their "establishment" likes it or not.

He's like George McGovern in 1972 that way. :prof:
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Re: Republicans

Post by Svartalf » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:28 pm

That's where you are wrong joe, The GOP does not own frump, they own to him... he was the only guy they could muster to beat hillary, but he's not truly one of them, if only because he's even crazier than they are... and they have no real control over him.
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Re: Republicans

Post by JimC » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:47 pm

They're riding a tiger, hoping not to fall off...
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Post by laklak » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:57 pm

I agree, Svarty, Trump is a wild card. Nobody really knows what to do with him.
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Re: Republicans

Post by Svartalf » Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:22 pm

If things really are as the latest news have it, I'm surprised they aren't impeaching hime over the Russian thing or any other excuse they could trump up and replacing him with nice, predictable and "one of us" for a Catholic Mike Pence...
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Re: Republicans

Post by Seabass » Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:25 pm

JimC wrote:
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They're riding a tiger, hoping not to fall off...
A rather well-fed tiger...

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Re: Republicans

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:44 pm

Svartalf wrote:If things really are as the latest news have it, I'm surprised they aren't impeaching hime over the Russian thing or any other excuse they could trump up and replacing him with nice, predictable and "one of us" for a Catholic Mike Pence...
The GOP seem cowed by him - their political need to not openly criticise him had been turned by the Trump PR machine into a kind of presidential impugnity that serves only to embolden and excuse each others deficiencies.
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Re: Republicans

Post by Joe » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:58 am

Svartalf wrote:
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That's where you are wrong joe, The GOP does not own frump, they own to him... he was the only guy they could muster to beat hillary, but he's not truly one of them, if only because he's even crazier than they are... and they have no real control over him.
Different definition of own Svarty. It might be peculiar to American slang.

I mean they own him in the sense that they will be held responsible for him. They had the opportunity to stack the deck against him at the convention, but lacked the courage to lose an election to preserve their party's principles.

I believe his stink will cling to the GOP for some time to come.
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Re: Republicans

Post by Tero » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:59 am

Strange that the party has no vetting process. No public tax returns? Throw him out, not on the ballot.

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Re: Republicans

Post by Joe » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:16 am

They used to, but times have changed. The Democrats started using super delegates after the McGovern nomination, but the Republicans didn't adopt that tactic. That's how the Dems contained the Bernie movement, but the GOP couldn't derail the Trump train.

As a lobbyist I know said, "they lost control of their party."
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Re: Republicans

Post by laklak » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:15 am

The Will of the People. He won the nomination. Unless you stack the deck with super delegates or something similar there's always a possibility the mob will do something you don't like.
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