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Re: Everything you didn't want to know about Trump and were not afraid to ask

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:51 pm

You know that it's American firms that pay those tariffs don't you?
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Post by Seabass » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:04 pm

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Re: Everything you didn't want to know about Trump and were not afraid to ask

Post by Tero » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:11 pm

Low unemployment, low inflation, reasonable interest rates, GDP roaring at 4.2% growth, stock market soaring
-crap jobs where you have to work two shifts
-GDP but what about debt?
-4.2% is standard, whoever is president at this point in economic cycle

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Re: Everything you didn't want to know about Trump and were not afraid to ask

Post by tattuchu » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:20 pm

Seabass wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:04 pm
You don't even care anymore, do you...
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Re: Everything you didn't want to know about Trump and were not afraid to ask

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:31 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:06 pm
pErvinalia wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:56 am
Including the claim that Trump wanted to assassinate Bashir Al-Assad. But yeah, Trump is really a liberal who is all for world peace..
What's Mattis say? Mattis has already denied other allegations in the book about what he supposedly said about Trump.

A true liberal adopts the power to assassinate American citizens without charges, let alone trial -
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... t-doj-memo (imagine the reporting, if that was the Trump DOJ who released a memo like that....).
Don't you get tired of your usual "what's that over there?" nonsense? Obama has nothing to do with Trump. :roll:
Oh here - https://www.mediaite.com/online/defsec- ... agination/ “While I generally enjoy reading fiction,” he [Mattis] continues, “This is a uniquely Washington brand of literature, and his anonymous sources do not lend credibility.”
While it's hard to know whether what Woodward has written is true, he is a very well respected journalist, so it's unlikely he's making stuff up, or putting in poorly sourced quotes. And what else would you expect Mattis to say? He'd lose his job and all power if he didn't come out and strongly deny it. His leader is also an habitual liar, so why wouldn't he lie?
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Re: Everything you didn't want to know about Trump and were not afraid to ask

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:34 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:34 pm
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Not Trump. He's a true liberal and peace lover.
Talk about it if he starts a new war. Obama was gearing up for the new Libya War which started 2 years into his presidency. Trump has no new wars in sight,
Iran. And again, what does Obama have to do with Trump??
"If Clinton had won, we would be on a fast track to war with Russia, either in the Baltics, Ukraine or in Syria. She made that perfectly clear." Trump, meanwhile, "had over the course of this election cycle said the very opposite. Many people thought that by coming out against war with Russia, he had disqualified himself. In fact he went so far as to attack the generals and those who are running foreign policy."
https://sputniknews.com/us/201611091047 ... ommentary/
Again, what does Clinton have to do with whether Trump is for peace? Do you really have no self control to stop yourself posting these red herrings?
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Re: Everything you didn't want to know about Trump and were not afraid to ask

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:37 pm

tattuchu wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:20 pm
Seabass wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:04 pm
You don't even care anymore, do you...
:hehe:
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Re: Everything you didn't want to know about Trump and were not afraid to ask

Post by Seabass » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:18 pm

This whole Trump episode feels like a bad episode of Twilight Zone.
I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration
I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opin ... tance.html

The Times today is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers. We invite you to submit a question about the essay or our vetting process here.

President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.

It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.

The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

I would know. I am one of them.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opin ... tance.html
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:29 am

This is an incredible turn of events. The Trumpistas will now claim this is proof of the deep state, I suppose, therefore increasing the worth of Trump in their eyes. I'm sure 42's made that assessment already.

Oh, and, #ANONYMOUSSOURCETHEREFOREFAKENEWS!
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:43 am

On the above, I like this line:

This isn’t the work of the so-called deep state. It’s the work of the steady state. :)
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:12 am

Another accomplishment to add to the list:

'Trump adds physicist Will Happer, climate science critic, to White House staff'
William Happer, a physics professor and vocal critic of mainstream climate science, has joined the White House as a top adviser.

...

When asked about his new National Security Council role, Happer said he would do his best to ensure that federal policy decisions "are based on sound science and technology."

An emeritus physics professor at Princeton University and a former Energy Department official under former President George H.W. Bush’s administration in the 1990s, Happer is well-known for his public criticism of mainstream climate modeling and his ties to the Trump administration.

Happer last year was considered a leading candidate to head the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and met with the president in Trump Tower before the inauguration. Happer told E&E News in an interview earlier this year that Trump asked him about Russia during that meeting.

Happer told The Scientist that the significance of climate change has been "tremendously exaggerated" and has "become sort of a cult movement in the last five or 10 years." Happer also said President Trump, who has referred to climate change as a Chinese hoax, agreed with his assessment.

More recently, Happer has appeared in internal emails obtained under the Freedom of Information Act advising the Trump administration's efforts to challenge mainstream climate science, including assembling and vetting proposed participants for former EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt's "red-team, blue-team" debate.

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Happer told E&E News in January that he supported Trump's decision to pull the United States out of the Paris climate accord but said he wished the president had focused on how the agreement "did not make scientific sense." Trump had cast the pact as detrimental to the U.S. economy.

"There is no problem from CO2," Happer said. "The world has lots and lots of problems, but increasing CO2 is not one of the problems. So [the accord] dignifies it by getting all these yahoos who don't know a damn thing about climate saying, 'This is a problem, and we're going to solve it.' All this virtue signaling. You can read about it in the Bible: Pharisees and hypocrites and phonies."

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:28 am

A couple of takes on the New York Times "I'm one of the quiet heroes helping keep Trump on track" nonsense:
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Post by Joe » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:39 pm

Is this officially weirder than Watergate now?
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Post by cronus » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:54 pm

Joe wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:39 pm
Is this officially weirder than Watergate now?
It's officially weirder than all the events of the 20th C combined from what I can see. Got to go back a long way to find something similar.

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Re: Everything you didn't want to know about Trump and were not afraid to ask

Post by Animavore » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:04 pm

Happer agrees with Trump's assessment (lol) that climate change is a hoax created by the Chinese?!

It was NASA scientists who first blew the whistle and Obama fought hard to get the Chinese on board the Paris agreement. Probably his greatest achievement. One which fucking orange Dib-Dab wants to destroy.

A fucking piece of shit through and through. Fucking human garbage. A destructive scumbag with no redeeming features. I hope he drowns in a cesspit.
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