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Post by Animavore » Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:15 pm

Nah. I think people give him too much credit. I really think he's a brain-dead, thick cunt who doesn't understand shit.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:16 pm

that too, but I guess the two are not mutually exclusive.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:39 pm

When you read about Trump as child he was completely ruined and spoilt. He became a bully by using his parents wealth. Since then he has never changed. He thinks he can bully his way through life.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:43 pm

Well he did become the President.
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Post by Animavore » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:45 pm

Sure. But he will never be a leader.
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Post by Seabass » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:54 pm

He understands how to manipulate simpletons. It's a skill that can get you pretty far in the world. Turns out, in America, it's a skill that can take you all the way to the fricken White House!
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:14 pm

Mathematics itself operates as "whiteness." White males do maths. Women and minorities, well, maths ...so racist and sexist. https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/10/ ... professor/

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LOL. Are we really that smart if we excel in reading comprehension, have a deep knowledge of history, and have a solid basis in chemistry, physics, biology, astronomy, geology, algebra, geometry, trigonometry, calculus, differential equations, thermodynamics, fluid dynamics, structural dynamics, etc., no!

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Post by Animavore » Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:23 pm

Anyway. Can we get back to enviously discussing the youth of today from a fearful position of increasing irrelevance.

I unsubscribed from the News and Politics part of the forum because I want to hear no more of that orange tumour which is slowly killing America.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:44 pm

Animavore wrote:
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Anyway. Can we get back to enviously discussing the youth of today from a fearful position of increasing irrelevance.
Only if you're not white or male.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:41 pm


pErvinalia wrote:Arguably the media wears a large chunk of the responsibility for Trump. A weak as piss media, by not adequately confronting the default neoliberalism narrative over the last 40 years, has allowed bullshit concepts like "trickle down", regulation slashing, and "small government", to become essentially entrenched principles in governance. And by further peddling the fear that right wing politicians push about brown people stealing jobs and welfare at the same time, and also wanting to marry your children and blow up your friends. The media is responsible in part for this state of affairs which is an indebted, fearful, insecure worker voting for a dangerous moron like Trump.
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Post by Seabass » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:56 pm

Well that was predictable. I'm surprised it took this long.

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Post by Animavore » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:11 pm

Yeah but can we go back to how it's really the homo-lovin' left who are the real problem.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:45 pm

If I can marry a girl, there is no sound legal basis, in a civilised country where equal rights are the rule of law, why I could not marry her brother instead... the homo loving left are not a problem, the only problem is that half the country's population finds their solution disgusting.
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Post by JimC » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:03 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:31 pm
Objectivity, rationality, scientific, valid, reliable, etc. are all problematic white, male concepts. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mo ... 5670e56963

There is no such thing as objectivity. It's just another subjective perspective. And it's just a way to say that the white, male perspective is the right one. “Objectivity,” for example, frames a white male subjectivity as the norm (thus “objective”), rendering racialized (non-white) and genderized (non-male) subjectivity as the “other,” as lacking credibility.
Explore the history of which research paradigms count, and you confront the bias in favor of quantitative (experimental and quasi-experimental) research (paradigms created by and maintained by men) over qualitative research (paradigms championed by women and racial minorities) ― the former is “hard,” “scientific,” and “objective” while the latter is “soft,” “personal,” and “(merely) anecdotal.”
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mo ... 5670e56963

So, the theory here is that "quantitative research" is something white men do, and "qualitative research" is something non-whites and women do. Qualitative research is a paradigm championed by women.

Anecdotes are just as "valid" as statistical evidence, under this theory, because the focus on objective data is white male, and anecdotal evidence is female and non-white.
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Again, you seek to portray this nonsense as mainstream progressive academia, whereas in fact it is very much the absurdist tail of a large bell curve. It probably creeps down the tail a little further in the US, but the vast bulk of serious academic courses are unaffected.
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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by JimC » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:04 pm

Seabass wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:56 pm
Well that was predictable. I'm surprised it took this long.

Tennessee hardware store puts up 'No Gays Allowed' sign
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... /29552615/

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That would not survive a legal challenge - it is far more overt than not baking a cake...
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