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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Forty Two » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:56 pm

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Does being in favor of free markets mean that we should allow Amazon To receive “... benefits from billions in subsidies from the U.S. Post office while skirting sales taxes....”. Which other retailers have to pay? Unlike others, they pay little or no taxes to state & local governments, use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy (causing tremendous loss to the U.S.), and are putting many thousands of retailers out of business as a result - does being in favor of free markets mean being in favor of that?
Doesn't your postal service operate on a for profit basis? Ours certainly does, and, in a similar way, was having big financial worries with the downturn in both private and business letters, given email and on-line bill paying etc. Their salvation came in the big increase of parcel delivery, including stuff from Amazon.

So, are you evil socialists over there, or will you let your postal service operate freely in the market? If their business plan lets them charge Amazon a bit more, then so be it... :tea:
It's supposed to, but it loses money every year. Billions. And is bailed out by the taxpayer.

They aren't operating freely in the market. Congress has barred USPS from setting its parcel prices below its costs, to keep it from unfairly undercutting competitors like FedEx and UPS. But the formula for calculating those costs, set in 2006, hasn’t kept pace as packages have come to make up a higher and higher percentage of USPS volume. The law set the share of infrastructure costs associated with packages at 5.5%, but boxes now make up around 25% of Postal Service revenue. Based on the applicable formula, the cost of Amazon boxes is underpriced by about $1.50 a box. That translates to billions.

Also, Amazon is getting subsidies as described here -- https://newrepublic.com/article/146540/ ... er-dollars

Are you interested in the free market being allowed to function for real? Or, do you just criticize Trump when he says one company is being unfairly benefitted?
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Forty Two » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:57 pm

Another success in the works for Trump - a good chance his renegotiation of NAFTA will come to fruition -- https://www.yahoo.com/news/trudeau-sees ... 46247.html
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:58 pm

What brick-and-mortar stores, Walmart?

I say the government should take ownership of Amazon.
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Tero » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:50 pm

Forty Two wrote:Another success in the works for Trump - a good chance his renegotiation of NAFTA will come to fruition -- https://www.yahoo.com/news/trudeau-sees ... 46247.html
Nafta was always in the works. Stalling it is success? Obama would have signed it by now. As I said 100 times: there are no ”rates” to negotiate. Tax is 0% for both. Only lists of items to exclude from deal.

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Tero » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:54 pm

Foreigners coming! Trump must have the shot at border!
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/05/americas ... index.html

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Forty Two » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:51 pm

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Forty Two wrote:Another success in the works for Trump - a good chance his renegotiation of NAFTA will come to fruition -- https://www.yahoo.com/news/trudeau-sees ... 46247.html
Nafta was always in the works. Stalling it is success? Obama would have signed it by now. As I said 100 times: there are no ”rates” to negotiate. Tax is 0% for both. Only lists of items to exclude from deal.
Who said anything about rates?

What are you saying Obama would have signed? What would his signature have amended by now?
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Seabass » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:17 pm

This guy is one of the few remaining semi-sane Republicans. He ran McCain's '08 campaign, I think.

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Tero » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:29 pm

But he's just getting started! We have to wait 8 years to see if it works!

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Forty Two » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:10 am

Seabass wrote:This guy is one of the few remaining semi-sane Republicans. He ran McCain's '08 campaign, I think.

You mean there were sane ones? When? Who?

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Post by Seabass » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:05 am

I said "semi-sane". I don't hate all Republicans; just 99.99% of them.

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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:11 am

Forty Two wrote: I created a thread about successes and accomplishments, which you merged with the thread that is specifically about the southern wall.
It's not specifically about the wall. This is the general Trump news thread. The thing about the wall is just a descriptor. It's how the continuing threads are done around here.
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Forty Two » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:28 am

If that were the case than the other threads about trump would be merged here. They are as related to this thread as the one I created. And typically, members controlled what new threads were created and specify threads could be created to have more focused conversations. This demand that all new issues about a person or broader topic need to be merged is a new thing. It’s also only enforced this way on topics that certain folks have their panties bunched up about.

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:55 am

I was just trying to explain to you that this thread isn't specifically about the wall. But please go ahead and spend 37 pages explaining how it actually is specifically about the wall. :roll:
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Joe » Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:12 am

Seabass wrote:This guy is one of the few remaining semi-sane Republicans. He ran McCain's '08 campaign, I think.

I have every confidence that most of the Trump base won't learn any such lesson. They live at the pace of social media news, and the effects will be far enough down the road from the causes, that the connection won't be made. Trump will find a scapegoat, yell "fake news," and escape blame.
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Tero » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:10 am

Pillow hustler is Trump’s new pal
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.3912323
If we could just smuggle a pillow handler to smother Trump.

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