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[Cunt]

No, theres some other simple modification you can do. If Seth was here he'd explain it.

Does a xirl like you believe that only your President and his team should have access to guns?

I think it is hilarious that the Oscars are guarded by guns, while your schools are guarded by signs indicating a gun-free zone.

What does any of that have to do with the quote of mine you were responding to? Was it just another opportunity for you to throw in one of your childish insults?

Oh and Hermit and I are Australians. Not Americans. And ironically you sound more like an American than a Canadian.

My apologies, pErvinalia. Mostly, I'm used to you speaking pretty off-topic and doing lots of childish insulting (or cheering such)

IN relation to your quote, yes, there is a mod to create a more dangerous weapon. That isn't a very scary one, though.

With the right gymbals, algorythms and some other mechanical hogwash, you can set up a gun to auto-aim and THAT, dear tender one, is MUCH more dangerous than rate of fire. That one scares me more, anyway. Heck, a well-aimed .22lr round is just as deadly as anything.

The genie is pretty fully out of the bottle now. There seems little that law can do to stem the tide.

The militias were also meant to be the only military forces available to the USA.) You, and the comedians just keep insisting on ignoring that point.

I'm just trying to show you why many Americans think differently about this. You keep your mind fixed on your interpretation if you wish. You can even think everyone else is wrong, that's fine. Just tdon't act like you don't know why people would disagree, or like they can't have a good reason.

So, why am I in favour of gun control?

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If you can do better, feel free to provide the sources.h

No need. I don't support it because it is statistically safer. I support 2a because I like the spirit of the thing - where individual citizens have the right to be armed against the State. Not their criminal attackers (though that is a natural extension) but the government.

I wish 2a could mate with 1a and make a twitter for all citizens, with blockchain-encrypted anonymous capability.

This might be a coincidence, but whether it is or not, you have yet to provide evidence that more guns equals less crime.

If it meant more crime, that would be terrible, but not enough to change my mind about citizens right to be armed.

My 'arms' of choice are words, but every bit as important to me. Their guns don't affect me, and I've never felt unsafe around armed, responsibly gun owners.

There IS a need, everywhere. How it is managed changes from place to place, but let me ask you this - do you think your personal view on carrying a gun for protection would change based on living in the following areas -
Grise Fjord, Canada
Detroit ghetto, US

It's worth appreciating that different environments demand different approaches.

No. There is not a need everywhere to be armed.

Not what I asked at all. I asked if your personal view on self-defense carrying would change based on location. Grise Fjord can have polar bears, Detoit ghettos can have a high incidence of gun violence (so I am led to understand).
So can you answer that question?

Nice argument for effective gun control.

It wasn't. I was just trying to find out if your opinion had any nuance to it. I see that it does, but not from the way you answered this particular question

The Australian equivalent used to be the streets surrounding Sydney's Kings Cross, especially the seedier ends of Darlinghurst and Elizabeth Bay. That's were most of the drug dealers, and heroin addicts congregated. Chances of getting mugged there were excellent if you wandered around on your own, but the threat would be getting punched, maybe hit with a spanner, piece of wood or whatever, not a fucking firearm.

Curious aside...why do you suppose Aus has banned 'pump action' guns? I don't see them as all that different to bolt-action, lever-action or even semi-autos like the ruger 10/22 carbine (famous varmint gun)

I could not live in a society where you did not know if someone is 'carrying'. Just the thought alone.

Where I live, the police are 'carrying', as are less-trained security people (mainly armoured-car companies) and anyone on their way to go hunting is carrying.

Here is a question - I'm allowed to hunt. Allowed to shoot. Allowed to carry my guns to the hunting area, then carry them around loaded when I'm there. Now, here is the question - I don't drive as much anymore, can I run to my hunting area if that means running through a city with a rifle or shotgun?

I won't be doing it, since I think part of being a responsible gun owner is not showing guns more than necessary, but it's common enough up here for people to hunt from their homes. I guess I have only lived in pretty densely populated areas. (current town has 20,000 people)

[Scot Dutchy]

Where I live, the police are 'carrying', as are less-trained security people (mainly armoured-car companies) and anyone on their way to go hunting is carrying.

Here is a question - I'm allowed to hunt. Allowed to shoot. Allowed to carry my guns to the hunting area, then carry them around loaded when I'm there. Now, here is the question - I don't drive as much anymore, can I run to my hunting area if that means running through a city with a rifle or shotgun?

I won't be doing it, since I think part of being a responsible gun owner is not showing guns more than necessary, but it's common enough up here for people to hunt from their homes. I guess I have only lived in pretty densely populated areas. (current town has 20,000 people)

You have to be in the hunting area where are licenced to shoot before you can display your weapon. No car then a taxi. You cant walk through the streets with your rifle. Hunting areas are not open to the public and must be organised events.

[Cunt]

Where I live, the police are 'carrying', as are less-trained security people (mainly armoured-car companies) and anyone on their way to go hunting is carrying.

Here is a question - I'm allowed to hunt. Allowed to shoot. Allowed to carry my guns to the hunting area, then carry them around loaded when I'm there. Now, here is the question - I don't drive as much anymore, can I run to my hunting area if that means running through a city with a rifle or shotgun?

I won't be doing it, since I think part of being a responsible gun owner is not showing guns more than necessary, but it's common enough up here for people to hunt from their homes. I guess I have only lived in pretty densely populated areas. (current town has 20,000 people)

You have to be in the hunting area where are licenced to shoot before you can display your weapon. No car then a taxi. You cant walk through the streets with your rifle. Hunting areas are not open to the public and must be organised events.

That sounds pretty restrictive. Here in Canada, I meant.

There are plenty of folks who drive through town with a gun case attached to their quad or skidoo. I haven't seen anyone walking through town, but I wouldn't outlaw it. I mean, what if someone couldn't afford a car?

[Tero]

1963

Second Amendment right exercised to kill the president.

1993

Congress begins requiring all gun owners to register their number of kills.

1998

Caving to public pressure, Nerf eliminates bump stocks across its product line.
Etc.
https://www.theonion.com/a-timeline-of- ... 1823547915

[JimC]

Cunt wrote:

Curious aside...why do you suppose Aus has banned 'pump action' guns? I don't see them as all that different to bolt-action, lever-action or even semi-autos like the ruger 10/22 carbine (famous varmint gun)

1. For most untrained people, a pump action (mostly shotguns - I had one once) would make it easier to produce a high rate of fire than a bolt action (for some reason, there are very few lever action rifles in Oz)

2. Back in the day, I owned a semi-auto Ruger 10/22 - my favourite gun ever! It took out many, many rabbits (pests here in Oz...)

3. As an aside, by my 30s I had accumulated 4 guns - the Ruger, a Mossburg 12 gauge pump action, an old WW2 M1 Garand with a 30 shot magazine, and a Mauser 303/250 with a scope, and I had a lot of fun with them. The gun amnesty/buy back mentioned earlier in this thread coincided with me having some vision problems, making shooting less enjoyable. I'd bought them all second hand, and when I took them to the buy back place, I made about a $50 dollar profit over all!

[Tero]

Let’s make Trump buy back all the AR-15s with his own money and destroy them. In return we will let him serve to the end of his 4 year term without impeachment. We will replace Tillerson with Romney as well. Putin does not like him.

[Cunt]

Let’s make Trump buy back all the AR-15s with his own money and destroy them. In return we will let him serve to the end of his 4 year term without impeachment. We will replace Tillerson with Romney as well. Putin does not like him.

Either he doesn't deserve to be impeached, or his opponents are too incompetent to prove that he does.

In either case, it's going to be Trump in 2020. I haven't seen any increase in understanding among the loser-party since their shock when he beat them last time lol

[Tero]

Well, he is having a hard time having a White House run even 2 years. But he will want to run, he likes running. He is probably the best chance the Republicans have. The party is in poor favor among all independents by now. So he may run yes. if he survives. he is just such a scumbag that arresting half his empire would not be a bad move. And he knows more Russia shit than he admits. It's to the Reagan Iran Contra point now. Reagan only got out of it by going senile. Trump should try that!

[pErvinalia]

There IS a need, everywhere. How it is managed changes from place to place, but let me ask you this - do you think your personal view on carrying a gun for protection would change based on living in the following areas -
Grise Fjord, Canada
Detroit ghetto, US

It's worth appreciating that different environments demand different approaches.

No. There is not a need everywhere to be armed.

Not what I asked at all.

He didn't say that's what you asked. You said that "There IS a need, everywhere". There isn't.

I could not live in a society where you did not know if someone is 'carrying'. Just the thought alone.

Where I live, the police are 'carrying', as are less-trained security people (mainly armoured-car companies) and anyone on their way to go hunting is carrying.

You appear to have a problem with reading comprehension. Scot said "where you did NOT know if someone is carrying". Police and security people openly carry, and in the civilised world hunters have to have their rifle unloaded and often secured in a case.

[Tero]

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[Svartalf]

My understanding was that this amendment was to enshrine the rights of individual citizens to arm themselves against government tyranny.

You may insist that a bunch of dirt-farmers with guns can't fight a big gov't army, but when I saw your chosen image, it showed me that you don't take any of it seriously.

Then what it all this silly talk of militias? You don't need a well organized militia to overthrow governments, more of a big lynch mob. Guilliotines would be handy.

Actually, when said governement has a well organized and armed standing army, not to mention lots of well armed LEOs, you need an exceedingly well armed lynch mob to effect a revolution.
plus, the amendment means that, since militiamen need provide their own armament (as opposed to soldiers who provide only their able bodies and obedience), it is a necessity of law that citizens be allowed to procure whatever weaponry they like in case they should be mustered for militia duty.

[pErvinalia]

We gonna need some tanks, Jethro.

[Sean Hayden]

We actually keep guns in case the Brits come back. I don't think they will, but you never know.

[Scot Dutchy]

We actually keep guns in case the Brits come back. I don't think they will, but you never know.

Well that sounds very much like the NRA logic; 'you never know'.

[Cunt]

https://www.theonion.com/nra-recommends ... 1819579748

I understand that you hate guns because of all the years of life lost, and the bangy noises, but let me ask you this...

With obesity killing more than double the number of people killed by guns, do you take time to tell your loved ones when they are getting too fat?

Or is this just more LARPing as a Democrat, without real care for life lost?