Lenin Badge

[Lozzer]

I have a badge of Lenin which was purchased at a market. Its a scarlet ribbon with a gold caricature of Communist leader Lenin. I believe you yanks call it a button, but its a badge. I believe its used as a Lapel pin. I can't find any images of it on the internet and it looks relatively modern. Anyone know anything about memorabilia like this? I could possibly scan it if needs be.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I have a badge of Lenin which was purchased at a market. Its a scarlet ribbon with a gold caricature of Communist leader Lenin. I believe you yanks call it a button, but its a badge. I believe its used as a Lapel pin. I can't find any images of it on the internet and it looks relatively modern. Anyone know anything about memorabilia like this? I could possibly scan it if needs be.

I don't know if it's worth anything - I think that many thousands were made in the USSR, and elsewhere, over the years. My dad has a great collection of Mao badges from the 60's that he picked up while stationed in Hong Kong. I have often meant to look into their value as collectables.

[Lozzer]

I have a badge of Lenin which was purchased at a market. Its a scarlet ribbon with a gold caricature of Communist leader Lenin. I believe you yanks call it a button, but its a badge. I believe its used as a Lapel pin. I can't find any images of it on the internet and it looks relatively modern. Anyone know anything about memorabilia like this? I could possibly scan it if needs be.

I don't know if it's worth anything - I think that many thousands were made in the USSR, and elsewhere, over the years. My dad has a great collection of Mao badges from the 60's that he picked up while stationed in Hong Kong. I have often meant to look into their value as collectables.

They're pretty cool little things. I also have a Soviet Union badge and a badge with what appears to be a temple with two guard posts in front, with Russian letters which kind of read 'BAANNMNP'. But obviously, not exactly like that.

EDIT: Isn't it really peculiar how most of the imagery used on some of these badges digress from glorifying the proletariat and labour completely and concentrate on leaders and authoritarian figures instead?

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I have a badge of Lenin which was purchased at a market. Its a scarlet ribbon with a gold caricature of Communist leader Lenin. I believe you yanks call it a button, but its a badge. I believe its used as a Lapel pin. I can't find any images of it on the internet and it looks relatively modern. Anyone know anything about memorabilia like this? I could possibly scan it if needs be.

I don't know if it's worth anything - I think that many thousands were made in the USSR, and elsewhere, over the years. My dad has a great collection of Mao badges from the 60's that he picked up while stationed in Hong Kong. I have often meant to look into their value as collectables.

They're pretty cool little things. I also have a Soviet Union badge and a badge with what appears to be a temple with two guard posts in front, with Russian letters which kind of read 'BAANNMNP'. But obviously, not exactly like that.

EDIT: Isn't it really peculiar how most of the imagery used on some of these badges digress from glorifying the proletariat and labour completely and concentrate on leaders and authoritarian figures instead?

WHAT!!1!1111!!

Are you suggesting that an ideology intended as the protector of the working man became subverted into a cult of personality???????//?? Yeah spose.

[Lozzer]

I have a badge of Lenin which was purchased at a market. Its a scarlet ribbon with a gold caricature of Communist leader Lenin. I believe you yanks call it a button, but its a badge. I believe its used as a Lapel pin. I can't find any images of it on the internet and it looks relatively modern. Anyone know anything about memorabilia like this? I could possibly scan it if needs be.

I don't know if it's worth anything - I think that many thousands were made in the USSR, and elsewhere, over the years. My dad has a great collection of Mao badges from the 60's that he picked up while stationed in Hong Kong. I have often meant to look into their value as collectables.

They're pretty cool little things. I also have a Soviet Union badge and a badge with what appears to be a temple with two guard posts in front, with Russian letters which kind of read 'BAANNMNP'. But obviously, not exactly like that.

EDIT: Isn't it really peculiar how most of the imagery used on some of these badges digress from glorifying the proletariat and labour completely and concentrate on leaders and authoritarian figures instead?

WHAT!!1!1111!!

Are you suggesting that an ideology intended as the protector of the working man became subverted into a cult of personality???????//?? Yeah spose.

I blame the bourgeoisie!

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I have a badge of Lenin which was purchased at a market. Its a scarlet ribbon with a gold caricature of Communist leader Lenin. I believe you yanks call it a button, but its a badge. I believe its used as a Lapel pin. I can't find any images of it on the internet and it looks relatively modern. Anyone know anything about memorabilia like this? I could possibly scan it if needs be.

I don't know if it's worth anything - I think that many thousands were made in the USSR, and elsewhere, over the years. My dad has a great collection of Mao badges from the 60's that he picked up while stationed in Hong Kong. I have often meant to look into their value as collectables.

They're pretty cool little things. I also have a Soviet Union badge and a badge with what appears to be a temple with two guard posts in front, with Russian letters which kind of read 'BAANNMNP'. But obviously, not exactly like that.

EDIT: Isn't it really peculiar how most of the imagery used on some of these badges digress from glorifying the proletariat and labour completely and concentrate on leaders and authoritarian figures instead?

WHAT!!1!1111!!

Are you suggesting that an ideology intended as the protector of the working man became subverted into a cult of personality???????//?? Yeah spose.

I blame the bourgeoisie!

Yeah! Bloody bourgeouiseez!!!111

[Lozzer]

Yeah! Bloody bourgeouiseez!!!111

No, but seriously, I fucking hate them Naive and undeserving assholes.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Yeah! Bloody bourgeouiseez!!!111

No, but seriously, I fucking hate them Naive and undeserving assholes.

What, all of them? Or just the petit bourgeois? The bourgeois that got that way through dragging themselves and their families out of the drudgery of the factory or the dole queue? The bourgeois that were born that way but have struggled to keep their heads above water against a changing economic climate so that now they are barely bringing in a living wage?

There is no bourgeoisie as described by Marx anymore. In fact, none of Marx's class-divides exist anymore. The real power, money and influence is no longer in the hands of the landed gentry, but in multi-national corporations. A corporate wage-earner can out-earn a shop-keeper by a factor of 10 these days.

Why is one human being less deserving than another in any case? And where did your notion of the bourgeoisie as naive come from? Read your Marx in the context of today's world and you will see that the class struggle was won long ago but immediately subverted.

[Lozzer]

Yeah! Bloody bourgeouiseez!!!111

No, but seriously, I fucking hate them Naive and undeserving assholes.

What, all of them? Or just the petit bourgeois? The bourgeois that got that way through dragging themselves and their families out of the drudgery of the factory or the dole queue? The bourgeois that were born that way but have struggled to keep their heads above water against a changing economic climate so that now they are barely bringing in a living wage?

There is no bourgeoisie as described by Marx anymore. In fact, none of Marx's class-divides exist anymore. The real power, money and influence is no longer in the hands of the landed gentry, but in multi-national corporations. A corporate wage-earner can out-earn a shop-keeper by a factor of 10 these days.

Why is one human being less deserving than another in any case? And where did your notion of the bourgeoisie as naive come from? Read your Marx in the context of today's world and you will see that the class struggle was won long ago but immediately subverted.

All of them, except for Petty Bourgeoisie.

Maybe so, but the Manifesto is only relevant because it separations and explains the groups in an eco-taxonomical manner.

Do you think someone who was born into a very rich family and now lives in a stately home, who has never lifted a finger in his life and couldn't care less for the working class is deserving of anything other than a punch in the face? My idea that the bourgeoisie are naive comes from observing reality. Do you or do you not agree, that the Daily Mail's target audience consists entirely of middle-class people? A naive paper for a naive people.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Yeah! Bloody bourgeouiseez!!!111

No, but seriously, I fucking hate them Naive and undeserving assholes.

What, all of them? Or just the petit bourgeois? The bourgeois that got that way through dragging themselves and their families out of the drudgery of the factory or the dole queue? The bourgeois that were born that way but have struggled to keep their heads above water against a changing economic climate so that now they are barely bringing in a living wage?

There is no bourgeoisie as described by Marx anymore. In fact, none of Marx's class-divides exist anymore. The real power, money and influence is no longer in the hands of the landed gentry, but in multi-national corporations. A corporate wage-earner can out-earn a shop-keeper by a factor of 10 these days.

Why is one human being less deserving than another in any case? And where did your notion of the bourgeoisie as naive come from? Read your Marx in the context of today's world and you will see that the class struggle was won long ago but immediately subverted.

All of them, except for Petty Bourgeoisie.

Maybe so, but the Manifesto is only relevant because it separations and explains the groups in an eco-taxonomical manner.

Do you think someone who was born into a very rich family and now lives in a stately home, who has never lifted a finger in his life and couldn't care less for the working class is deserving of anything other than a punch in the face? My idea that the bourgeoisie are naive comes from observing reality. Do you or do you not agree, that the Daily Mail's target audience consists entirely of middle-class people? A naive paper for a naive people.

"Someone who was born into a very rich family and now lives in a stately home, who has never lifted a finger in his life" would be an upper-class twit, NOT bourgeoise. I think you will find that they are a dying breed in any case. The bourgeoisie have won. They run everything now. Because they are everyone.

And are Sun readers, Mirror readers, Express readers, Telegraph readers, Sunday Sport readers any more enlightened? Most people are naive if you ask me.

And for that matter, isn't trusting in the validity of a social analysis made over 150 years ago in a very differently structured society a little naive too? Do you think Marx would write the same book were he alive today?

[Lozzer]

Yeah! Bloody bourgeouiseez!!!111

No, but seriously, I fucking hate them Naive and undeserving assholes.

What, all of them? Or just the petit bourgeois? The bourgeois that got that way through dragging themselves and their families out of the drudgery of the factory or the dole queue? The bourgeois that were born that way but have struggled to keep their heads above water against a changing economic climate so that now they are barely bringing in a living wage?

There is no bourgeoisie as described by Marx anymore. In fact, none of Marx's class-divides exist anymore. The real power, money and influence is no longer in the hands of the landed gentry, but in multi-national corporations. A corporate wage-earner can out-earn a shop-keeper by a factor of 10 these days.

Why is one human being less deserving than another in any case? And where did your notion of the bourgeoisie as naive come from? Read your Marx in the context of today's world and you will see that the class struggle was won long ago but immediately subverted.

All of them, except for Petty Bourgeoisie.

Maybe so, but the Manifesto is only relevant because it separations and explains the groups in an eco-taxonomical manner.

Do you think someone who was born into a very rich family and now lives in a stately home, who has never lifted a finger in his life and couldn't care less for the working class is deserving of anything other than a punch in the face? My idea that the bourgeoisie are naive comes from observing reality. Do you or do you not agree, that the Daily Mail's target audience consists entirely of middle-class people? A naive paper for a naive people.

"Someone who was born into a very rich family and now lives in a stately home, who has never lifted a finger in his life" would be an upper-class twit, NOT bourgeoise. I think you will find that they are a dying breed in any case. The bourgeoisie have won. They run everything now. Because they are everyone.

And are Sun readers, Mirror readers, Express readers, Telegraph readers, Sunday Sport readers any more enlightened? Most people are naive if you ask me.

And for that matter, isn't trusting in the validity of a social analysis made over 150 years ago in a very differently structured society a little naive too? Do you think Marx would write the same book were he alive today?

Everyone except everyone in my town--including me.

True that.

I don't know.

[Lozzer]

Well anyway, here's my badge:

[Flora]

My mother has quite a lot of badges and pins like that. She was given them about 1970 when she took a party of children to the USSR on a goodwill visit.

I've got some like that too from my visit to Bulgaria in about 1969 when I was in a party of kids on a visit to an International kids camp. The English party were paired with the Russians in a friendship group. The Russian kids gave us lots of communist badges / scarves/ postcards etc and we gave them little Union Jack badges and pictures of The Beatles. They were more pleased than we were!

[Xamonas Chegwé]

That's very similar to the Mao badges my dad has. Is it brass or plastic? He has a few of each.

[Lozzer]

That's very similar to the Mao badges my dad has. Is it brass or plastic? He has a few of each.

Brass I think.