Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

[Clinton Huxley]

I'm sure there is a cunning plan.

[Scot Dutchy]

[Clinton Huxley]

HMS Queen Elizabeth just arrived at Gibraltar to remind the ungrateful Euros that their liberty exists behind Britannia's shield.

/ end Telegraph mode.

[Scot Dutchy]

Britannia did not have a shield. It was everybody else that saved us; UK Commonwealth, USA and the Russians. The UK was knackered.
Found any planes for the tub yet? It seams a bit pointless an aircraft carrier without aircraft.

[Clinton Huxley]

Britannia did not have a shield. It was everybody else that saved us; UK Commonwealth, USA and the Russians. The UK was knackered.
Found any planes for the tub yet? It seams a bit pointless an aircraft carrier without aircraft.

Holland would just be Germany's patio now if it wasn't for Blighty.

I'll not even comment on the "no planes" sneer as it betrays an ignorance of naval matters it would be indelicate to draw attention to.

[Scot Dutchy]

Britannia did not have a shield. It was everybody else that saved us; UK Commonwealth, USA and the Russians. The UK was knackered.
Found any planes for the tub yet? It seams a bit pointless an aircraft carrier without aircraft.

Holland would just be Germany's patio now if it wasn't for Blighty.

I'll not even comment on the "no planes" sneer as it betrays an ignorance of naval matters it would be indelicate to draw attention to.

Yes thanks to Yanks, Soviets, Aussies, Kiwi's and Canadians we were saved. The country itself was liberated by the Canadians.

An ignorance of assuming an aircraft carrier would be carrying aircraft. Oh it has another purpose please tell?

[Alan B]

Churchill did encourage us to 'bite on the feeches'...

[Scot Dutchy]

The boil has to be lanced.

Northern Ireland will stay in single market after Brexit, EU says

UK negotiators braced for major row over EU’s draft withdrawal agreement

UK negotiators have been warned that the EU draft withdrawal agreement will stipulate that Northern Ireland will, in effect, remain in the customs union and single market after Brexit to avoid a hard border.

In response the UK agreed this week to engage in technical discussions on how such an arrangement could work.

The uncompromising legal language of the draft agreement and the UK’s engagement on those terms is likely to provoke a major row, something all parties to the negotiations have been trying to avoid.

Unification within the EU is the only solution.

[Rum]

Would that be the 'final' solution??

[Scot Dutchy]

Might be.

[PsychoSerenity]

The boil has to be lanced.

Northern Ireland will stay in single market after Brexit, EU says

UK negotiators braced for major row over EU’s draft withdrawal agreement

UK negotiators have been warned that the EU draft withdrawal agreement will stipulate that Northern Ireland will, in effect, remain in the customs union and single market after Brexit to avoid a hard border.

In response the UK agreed this week to engage in technical discussions on how such an arrangement could work.

The uncompromising legal language of the draft agreement and the UK’s engagement on those terms is likely to provoke a major row, something all parties to the negotiations have been trying to avoid.

Unification within the EU is the only solution.

The thing is, if our government two years ago started making plans, negotiating with the understanding of the need for compromises, proposed a set of laws and options with agreement from Ireland, possibly put to referendum in NI alongside the EU referendum, developed and paid for a new system/bureaucracy for customs declarations and electronic track and trace enforcement, it *might* have been possible to square that circle by now. Instead they seem to have sat on their arses insisting that the unicorns will be along any day now to let us have our cake and eat it, until the EU has given up waiting and slapped them around the face with the wet haddock of reality.

[Scot Dutchy]

Totally agree.

But remember the Brexiteers were playing by the Thatcher rule book and using the Empire 2 variation which like the rest of the rule book was totally misconceived. They thought they could destroy the EU but as things have unfolded it looks as if the UK is lining up for destruction and of course there was nothing in Maggie's rule book about that.

[Brian Peacock]

"... the wet haddock of reality."

[Scot Dutchy]

Brian

[Alan B]

"... the wet haddock of reality."

This seems appropriate...