Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

[mistermack]

I will certainly be celebrating the news that I am only 2% poorer than I was a year ago.

Not correct if you are lamenting the two percent drop.

The Euro is strongly up on the year against most currencies. The pound is up, but the Euro is slightly more up.
Against the dollar you are quids in. The pound is up from $1.23 to $1.35
Lucky old you.

If the pound gets any stronger against the dollar, I might even consider buying some rye whiskey.

[Brian Peacock]

Brussels accuses David Davis of hypocrisy over EU discrimination claim

David Davis’s claim in a leaked letter to the prime minister that the EU is discriminating against the UK and damaging its economic interests by preparing for a no-deal scenario in March 2019 has been met with flat denials and accusations of hypocrisy in Brussels.

The European commission’s chief spokesman, Margaritis Schinas, expressed surprise at the content of the letter and insisted it was only natural for the bloc to prepare for a situation threatened repeatedly by Downing Street.

It had emerged in a letter obtained by the Financial Times that the government has taken advice on the legality of EU warnings to businesses that Britain would be treated as a “third country” after March 2019.

Davis claims in his letter that the EU’s warnings could jeopardise existing contracts or even force British companies to move to the continent.

By treating the UK differently from other member states before it leaves the bloc, Davis suggests the EU had been acting “in a way which is frequently damaging to UK interests”....


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... _clipboard

[Scot Dutchy]

What in the hell do they expect the EU to do?

[Brian Peacock]

Yeah. And the PM campaigned in the snap election on the slogan "No deal is better than a bad deal." Par for the course I'm afraid.

[cronus]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 89986.html

Hard Brexit would shrink Welsh economy by up to 30 per cent, analysis finds

The economy of Wales could shrink by up to 30 per cent if Britain leaves the EU without a trade deal, according to new analysis released by the Welsh Government.

The study, by the Cardiff Business School, found Wales will be hit disproportionally hard in comparison to other regions if Theresa May’s government takes the UK out of the EU single market and customs union.

Major employers in industries such as car manufacturing, steel and aerospace will be especially hit by a hard Brexit, researchers warned.

After consulting with dozens of companies, including several key employers, they found “few firms identifying any positive opportunities deriving from the Brexit process”.

(continued, added the suckers surcharge....because politicans lie, before you all complain.)

[Rum]

No. You are the dishonest one. You have taking a verbatim quote and changed the figures from 10 to 30. What the fuck is wrong with you? Jesus.

Actually quoting like this would be borderline illegal in some circumstances.

Idiot.

[Rum]

Heard a new acronym on the radio this morning. 'BINO' - Brexit In Name Only - i.e. keeping as much of the framework as possible but officially leaving. It is what the remainders in government are fighting for it seems.

The BEANO - same pronunciation, so it will ring bells here - is a famous British children's comic.

[Hermit]

No. You are the dishonest one. You have taking a verbatim quote and changed the figures from 10 to 30. What the fuck is wrong with you?

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. Put it in English: Business as usual. Crumpelstilzchen just can't help himself. Or he's practising in order to become a hack in the employ of the Daily Fail.

[Rum]

No. You are the dishonest one. You have taking a verbatim quote and changed the figures from 10 to 30. What the fuck is wrong with you?

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. Or, to put it in English: Business as usual. Crumpelstilzchen just can't help himself. Or he's practising in order to become a hack in the employ of the Daily Fail.

I suppose he does have consistency going for him.

[Scot Dutchy]

Dandy?

[cronus]

No. You are the dishonest one. You have taking a verbatim quote and changed the figures from 10 to 30. What the fuck is wrong with you?

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. Or, to put it in English: Business as usual. Crumpelstilzchen just can't help himself. Or he's practising in order to become a hack in the employ of the Daily Fail.

I suppose he does have consistency going for him.

I still recall the time, long ago now, I 'imitated' Alan Greenspan. That caused me some bother, more than changing a few numbers to bring out their true shine.

[Brian Peacock]

Anna Soubry urges May to 'sling out' arch Brexiters


Leading pro-Europe Conservative MP Anna Soubry has told the prime minister to “sling out” arch Brexiters as she threatened to quit the party and form a new political alliance.

The former business minister claimed Theresa May would face the same fate as David Cameron and John Major unless she stood up to Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees-Mogg.

Soubry told BBC2’s Newsnight: “If it comes to it, I am not going to stay in a party which has been taken over by the likes of Jacob Rees-Mogg and Boris Johnson. They are not proper Conservatives.

“And if that means leaving the party, form some new alliance, God knows I don’t know. But we just simply cannot go on like this any longer.

“Something is going to have to give because if it doesn’t, not only will we get Jacob Rees-Mogg as our prime minister, we will get a devastating hard Brexit which will cause huge damage to our economy for generations to come.”

Soubry added: “Unless Theresa stands up and sees off these people she is in real danger of losing huge swathes of not just the parliamentary party but the Conservative party.”


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... _clipboard

What Ms Soubry doesn't appear to be grasping is that the Brexiteers have already taken over the asylum. For Rees-Mogg and the Brexit minister to double down on accusations that the civil service are treasonous traitors for basically not telling them what they need to hear shows how secure they are within the party and in Parliament.

[Rum]

From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42977967

"Parts of the UK that backed a Leave vote would face the heaviest hit as a result of Brexit, according to estimates by government officials".

Ignorant Trump style bastard voters. Fuck off!

[Scot Dutchy]

Yep read that. Some sort of justice? I dont bother much anymore about Brexshitters. They are slowly realising what they have done (well those with two brain cells). Less and less of them are audible. Just Moggy keeps spouting. BoJo is going to give a speech on valitine's day. Undoubtedly very inspiring.

[Brian Peacock]

I actually think it's unfair to simply label all those who voted Leave as ignorant Trump-style voters - as if that somehow explains why they voted Leave. Like those who supported Trump, many in the more economically deprived areas of Britain had seen their wages go down in real terms over quite a while - and more so following the finacnial collapse of 2007-8. Their frustrations were genuine, and that frustration was ripe for tapping by the Tory Brexiteers and the right-wing fringe like UKIP, who solicited indignation (and in some cases outright hatred) while casting themselves as the only people offering a simple explanation and an equally simple solution - even if was the usual fascist tactic of blaming minorities and foreigners. Like Trump's opposition, the mainstream UK political parties were offering them nothing but things to stay the same - the economic regeneration promised by Cameron and Osborne had never arrived and austerity policies were cutting deepest into social support services and public infrastructure in those areas, and so the narrative that jobs, wages and opportunities were being syphoned off by economic migrants whose interests and well-being the EU was somehow making the UK put before the interest of the native population offered both something positive to vote for (jobs and wages) and something negative to vote against (the status quo). Of course, those narratives were deliberately rooted in lies and misinformation, and pushed by people who, basically, think that poor people are scum anyway, but it did the trick - just as it appears to have done in the US with Trump.