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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Forty Two » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:37 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:Trump can try and fire his way out of trouble I guess, but who's going to be willing to fulfil the role of the loyal and eager stooge he needs if/when Rosenstein and Mueller get their cards?
He is unlikely to fire either of them. What we’ve seen is apparently what they have, and it doesnt amount to anything. If there was anything important, with the amount of “leaking” in this sieve of a government, it would be out there by now. We are going on 2 years of this.... wish all you want. It’s looking less likely by the month.

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Post by Tero » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:55 pm

But the pee pee tapes!

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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:56 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Trump can try and fire his way out of trouble I guess, but who's going to be willing to fulfil the role of the loyal and eager stooge he needs if/when Rosenstein and Mueller get their cards?
He is unlikely to fire either of them. What we’ve seen is apparently what they have, and it doesnt amount to anything. If there was anything important, with the amount of “leaking” in this sieve of a government, it would be out there by now. We are going on 2 years of this.... wish all you want. It’s looking less likely by the month.
Well technically he won't fire Rosenstein, Sessions will. And he won't fire Mueller, Rosenstein's replacement will. But if that does come to pass I doubt anyone would believe that it's anything other than a proxy for the man himself saying, "You're fired!"
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Forty Two » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:02 pm

Tero wrote:But the pee pee tapes!
I’m sure they are real. Easy to keep that secret. Lol

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Post by Forty Two » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:06 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Forty Two wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Trump can try and fire his way out of trouble I guess, but who's going to be willing to fulfil the role of the loyal and eager stooge he needs if/when Rosenstein and Mueller get their cards?
He is unlikely to fire either of them. What we’ve seen is apparently what they have, and it doesnt amount to anything. If there was anything important, with the amount of “leaking” in this sieve of a government, it would be out there by now. We are going on 2 years of this.... wish all you want. It’s looking less likely by the month.
Well technically he won't fire Rosenstein, Sessions will. And he won't fire Mueller, Rosenstein's replacement will. But if that does come to pass I doubt anyone would believe that it's anything other than a proxy for the man himself saying, "You're fired!"
He is unlikely to fire them. Mueller will submit his report and when it’s not enough to warrant anything, trump will get a major victory. So, their only goal now is to drag this out past the midterms and hope they take enough seats to impeach. If they don’t get a dramatic shift in Congress then they can’t impeach. So after November 2018, you will see democrats going batshit over something - anything - to keep the investigation going another 2 years. Lay a bet on it.

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Tero » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:56 pm

So many crashes!
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/04/us/amtra ... index.html

Trump could fix this by getting rid of Amtrak!

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:39 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Forty Two wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Trump can try and fire his way out of trouble I guess, but who's going to be willing to fulfil the role of the loyal and eager stooge he needs if/when Rosenstein and Mueller get their cards?
He is unlikely to fire either of them. What we’ve seen is apparently what they have, and it doesnt amount to anything. If there was anything important, with the amount of “leaking” in this sieve of a government, it would be out there by now. We are going on 2 years of this.... wish all you want. It’s looking less likely by the month.
Well technically he won't fire Rosenstein, Sessions will. And he won't fire Mueller, Rosenstein's replacement will. But if that does come to pass I doubt anyone would believe that it's anything other than a proxy for the man himself saying, "You're fired!"
He is unlikely to fire them. Mueller will submit his report and when it’s not enough to warrant anything, trump will get a major victory. So, their only goal now is to drag this out past the midterms and hope they take enough seats to impeach. If they don’t get a dramatic shift in Congress then they can’t impeach. So after November 2018, you will see democrats going batshit over something - anything - to keep the investigation going another 2 years. Lay a bet on it.
I don't know about that. I can't see the White House spending three years constantly telling the American public how biased and corrupt the FBI and Mueller are without running the risk of a drip-drip of information coming out of the investigations turning into to a political tidal wave.
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Post by Tero » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:31 pm

Reich locates Trump ”intelligence”, a rather narrow area:
This is where Trump shines. He knows how to manipulate people. He has an uncanny ability to discover their emotional vulnerabilities – their fears, anxieties, prejudices, and darkest desires – and use them for his own purposes.

To put it another way, Trump is an extraordinarily talented conman.

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-polit ... upid-trump

So basically you can’t really enjoy this intelligence unless you are gullible.

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:00 pm

Tero wrote:Reich locates Trump ”intelligence”, a rather narrow area:
This is where Trump shines. He knows how to manipulate people. He has an uncanny ability to discover their emotional vulnerabilities – their fears, anxieties, prejudices, and darkest desires – and use them for his own purposes.

To put it another way, Trump is an extraordinarily talented conman.

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-polit ... upid-trump

So basically you can’t really enjoy this intelligence unless you are gullible.
This what I mean about brainwashing. He is a snake oil salesman. He says what people want to hear and turns the negativity of his critics into a positive and that is his greatest talent.
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Post by Tero » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:02 pm

This should work out fine. The FBI and Mueller are enemies of the state:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/30/trump-r ... ainternala

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:55 pm

Tero wrote:This should work out fine. The FBI and Mueller are enemies of the state:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/30/trump-r ... ainternala
They are enemies of Trump therefore enemies of his supporters. That is what he wants as long he is the centre of attraction.
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Post by Seabass » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:39 pm

This guy is dumber than a sack of hammers.

Trump Jr. suggests Russia investigation akin to 'McCarthyism,' says Dems are 'left of commie'
President Donald Trump's oldest son suggested on Saturday that claims by Democrats of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia are ironic, since such accusations resemble McCarthyism.

"You see the Democratic senators [saying] 'This is McCarthyism.' I’m like what? You have a guy screaming, 'Russia, Russia, Russia' with no evidence," Donald Trump Jr. said during an interview with Fox News Channel's Jesse Watters Saturday night. "All this shade for 18 months, screaming about McCarthyism. I mean the irony is ridiculous at this point."

McCarthyism refers to the campaign against alleged communists in the U.S. government during the early 1950s carried out by Sen. Joseph McCarthy.

And the use of Cold War-era references and terminology continued, with Trump Jr. describing Democrats as "left of commie," a derogatory term for a communist.

"The problem is rather than being reasonable and coming to the table, they forced themselves further, and further and further left," Trump Jr. said during his "Watters' World" interview. "I mean, they are left of commie right now, and that's a real problem for them and I don't think that's where America was [during the 2016 election.]"

As for the controversial GOP memo released Friday alleging surveillance at the Department of Justice, Trump Jr. said the memo's release serves as "sweet justice" for his family.

"There is a little bit of sweet revenge in it for me and certainly probably the family in a sense that if they wouldn't have done this, this stuff would be going on," he said. "This would be going on at the highest levels of government. They'd be continuing doing it to my father, trying to undermine his actions."
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:28 am

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Post by Animavore » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:40 pm

42's astonishing level of defending the indefensible is nothing on this sad sack.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:12 pm

Il Douche thinks that the lack of mindless adulation from the Democrats during his State of the Union address was 'un-American.' Has he never seen a State of the Union address before? Then, prompted by a MAGAbot in the audience he went along: Why not call their behavior treasonous? Yeah, why not? Par for the course--narcissistic authoritarianism is just the quotidian tone that has been established by Dear Leader.

'Trump accuses Dems of "treasonous" behavior'
President Trump on Monday accused Democrats of "treasonous" behavior during his State of the Union address, escalating partisan tensions during a crucial stretch for Congress.

Trump took aim at Democratic lawmakers who refused to applaud during his speech last week when he mentioned his achievements during his first year in office, a reaction he called “un-American.”

"Can we call that treason? Why not?" the president said during a speech in Ohio. "They certainly didn't seem to love our country very much."

Trump signaled that Democrats’ refusal to cheer “very positive news” in his speech, such as low unemployment rates for Hispanics and African-Americans, will make it difficult for him to work with them on government spending and immigration.

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