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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Forty Two » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:33 pm

Tero wrote:Why would we want: funding for the wall and border security to prevent the large numbers of illegal immigrants crossing the border whether by foot, car, or plane.

Big waste of public funds. Spend the money on roads and bridges. You can have 500 paddywagons to round up illegals.
The Democrats have already agreed that they'll vote yes on wall and border security. The thing they object to is that they want immigrants to be able to apply to get their adult children (and their families) and their older parents (and their other family members) in. That's what they're hanging their hat on.

Trump is also giving the Democrats what they want in terms of an "infrastructure" rebuilding plan. That's something he wants that the Democrats love.

So, they have no way to say no and retain credibility.
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Forty Two » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:42 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:Finance seems the last thing that worries Trump. I suppose being bankrupt nine times does make one slightly blasé.
Keeping millions more illegal aliens from coming in and switching to an employment/merit based immigration system in place of extended family immigration would save billions of dollars.
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:44 pm

Forty Two wrote: Canada wouldn't tolerate. Oz wouldn't tolerate it. Europe wouldn't tolerate it. They would want, of course, to be compassionate to the innocent, .
Not in Australia they wouldn't. We'd want to lock them in a tropical hell-hole prison for years until they committed suicide.
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Tero » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:04 pm

I’m winning! I’m winning! Like my tweets!
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Post by Seabass » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:02 pm



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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Tero » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:22 pm

Trump's infrastructure plan is a private, expensive bridge to nowhere
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Tero » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:21 pm

Trump failed to stop 1 million people from Shithole countries in 2017. Once they become citizens, all will vote for a colorful president like Obama in favor of old white men. Maybe even a woman!
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:28 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:Finance seems the last thing that worries Trump. I suppose being bankrupt nine times does make one slightly blasé.
Keeping millions more illegal aliens from coming in and switching to an employment/merit based immigration system in place of extended family immigration would save billions of dollars.
Can you explain the basis for your assertion?

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Tero » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:47 pm

No families to America. Just merit based singles. They can just get divorced if they wanna come here. Universities: no hiring couples from Europe.

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Tero » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:10 am

CNN:All available national crime statistics show immigrants commit fewer crimes, not more, than those born in the U.S. Even opponents of increased immigration lack evidence linking immigrants to higher crime rates.

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:49 am

That's wild. The jails are full of Mexicans. They used to be full of blacks. They still are, I mean blacks are still locked up far more often than they should be, but I would have bet Mexicans make up the majority in jails here now.
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Tero » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:03 am

You have to compare the number of criminals to the total number of people from that country. This number lumped together a number of immigrant groups. It was not sorted out by nationality. Muslim immigrants included.

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:27 am

They'll just dismiss it then in favor of other stats that show that while they make up a smaller part of the population, non-whites represent the majority in our prisons.
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Tero » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:56 am

Whatever.

Meanwhile brave Trump activists are saving babies one by one. Because Jesus.
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Animavore » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:13 am

A blackhole of scumbaggery.
The Trump administration official in charge of the Office of Refugee Resettlement discussed trying to use a controversial, scientifically unproven method to reverse an undocumented teen's abortion, according to documents reviewed by VICE News.

Scott Lloyd, a longtime crusader against abortion who heads the agency that oversees undocumented minors who enter the country without their parents, spoke with staffers about trying to reverse the abortion of a pregnant teen in their custody, according to a deposition he underwent as part of a lawsuit between the Trump administration and the American Civil Liberties Union.

In the past few years, opponents of abortion have championed the idea of halting a medication abortion midway by using the hormone progesterone. Anti-abortion activists have pushed governors in four states to sign laws requiring healthcare providers to tell patients about this so-called “abortion reversal” method. But there is no credible medical evidence that such a procedure works, and the mainstream medical community worries that using it amounts to experimentation on women.
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