Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

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Whose Hard Brexit do you want to get shafted by?

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Labour's Hard Brexit!
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Tory Hard Brexit
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Cheese or bacon or something
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:46 pm

Rum wrote:
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Rum wrote:One thing we still don’t have in the UK is ID cards. I’m pleased about that in an irrational sort of way.
We dont either as they are optional. It is easier carrying an ID card though being the standard credit card size than a passport and being a small country you are very quickly over the border. Schengen still requires you to be able to identify yourself to those that have the power to demand it.
The trouble in the UK you dont register so nobody knows where everyone lives. Here you must register your residential address at the town hall.
In what was is it 'trouble'?
You have not got a clue how many immigrants you have or how many are coming and going.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Rum » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:55 pm

I don't give a rats arse how many immigrants we have. There's plenty of work and they'll go somewhere else when there isn't.

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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:39 am

Without immigrants we wouldn't have our national dish.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Hermit » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:32 am

Brian Peacock wrote:Without immigrants we wouldn't have our national dish.
Fish & chips?
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Tyrannical » Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:51 am

Rum wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Rum wrote:One thing we still don’t have in the UK is ID cards. I’m pleased about that in an irrational sort of way.
We dont either as they are optional. It is easier carrying an ID card though being the standard credit card size than a passport and being a small country you are very quickly over the border. Schengen still requires you to be able to identify yourself to those that have the power to demand it.
The trouble in the UK you dont register so nobody knows where everyone lives. Here you must register your residential address at the town hall.
In what was is it 'trouble'?
Hi, not to intervene but I'd like to hear Scott and Rum discuss this topic more. I've my own opinion of course, but I'm curious about yours.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:57 am

Hermit wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Without immigrants we wouldn't have our national dish.
Fish & chips?
Chicken tikka masala.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by JimC » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:23 am

Curry 'n chips...
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Rum » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:32 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Hermit wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Without immigrants we wouldn't have our national dish.
Fish & chips?
Chicken tikka masala.
...which is officially the most popular dish in the UK these days.

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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Hermit » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:48 am

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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:57 am

In the UK all children are taught the recipe as infants and preparing the dish is now part of the citizen test.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Rum » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:19 am

Brian Peacock wrote:In the UK all children are taught the recipe as infants and preparing the dish is now part of the citizen test.
Our local Indian does workshops.

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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:53 am

Rum wrote:I don't give a rats arse how many immigrants we have. There's plenty of work and they'll go somewhere else when there isn't.
No? How does anyone know who lives where? The tory government failed to use the EU regulations to control EU immigration and the blamed it on the EU.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by mistermack » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:34 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Rum wrote:I don't give a rats arse how many immigrants we have. There's plenty of work and they'll go somewhere else when there isn't.
No? How does anyone know who lives where? The tory government failed to use the EU regulations to control EU immigration and the blamed it on the EU.
I agree. I've always been for compulsory ID cards. It should have been done years ago. And compulsory taking of finger prints and dna of everyone. Including at the ports.
When did an innocent person ever suffer from being identified?

But at least, once we are out, the government will not have anyone else to shift the blame onto.

Not that we will ever be out. I think we need Farage back. They really are working at it to not leave.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:01 pm

Really, how does one actually 'give a rat's ass' - or not for that matter, particularly when it's a flying rat's ass?
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:27 am

The government have been talking about official assessments and reports into the economic impact of Brexit for over a year, and now they say these reports don't exist. Hmmm.

Brexit studies were 'being prepared' a year before Davis said they didn't exist
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