Republicans

[Tero]

Basket of deplorables at it again

“We are deeply concerned about the impact some speakers may have on individuals’ sense of safety and belonging. No one should be made to feel threatened or harassed simply because of who they are or for what they believe.” For that reason, Alivisatos wrote, the university was referring students and faculty to “support services,” including “mental health counseling” for students.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editoria ... story.html

[Tero]

Congress goals:
Decide what each of them would be if they were all candy bars

Pass a sweeping healthcare law specifically designed to keep John McCain alive long enough to vote for a full repeal of Obamacare

Get bill that says tax somewhere on it to president’s desk

Let loose with some free-form indignant shouting

Come together as a united bipartisan front to name a few post offices after Jerry Lewis

Though they have a packed schedule, lawmakers would still like to strip healthcare from 22 million Americans when they have a free minute

[L'Emmerdeur]

Welp, the likely next US senator will be from Alabama, and he's a complete shithead Christian theocrat bag of hammers. That's the Trump era Republican party for you.

'The 7 most inflammatory things Roy Moore has said'

Republicans clinging to their thin majority in the Senate are now confronting the question about whether to vigorously support insurgent Roy Moore, the highly controversial former judge who handily beat incumbent GOP Sen. Luther Strange in Alabama’s special election on Tuesday night.

Moore, who surged to victory despite President Donald Trump's endorsement of Strange, largely ran on an anti-establishment platform that heavily targeted figures such as Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

...

“You know, we’ve suffered a lot in this country,” he said. “Maybe, just maybe, because we’ve distanced ourselves from the one that has it within his hands to heal this land.”

He indicated that God may be upset because “we legitimize sodomy” and “legitimize abortion.”

...

Years before candidate Trump would propose a Muslim ban and seek to restrict travel from certain Muslim-majority nations with an executive order, Moore penned a December 2006 editorial suggesting Rep. Keith Ellison, the first Muslim elected to Congress, shouldn’t be allowed to serve.

“Islamic law is simply incompatible with our law,” he wrote. “In 1943, we would never have allowed a member of Congress to take their oath on ‘Mein Kampf,’ or someone in the 1950s to swear allegiance to the ‘Communist Manifesto.’ Congress has the authority and should act to prohibit Ellison from taking the congressional oath today!”

Moore believes that sex between men and sex between women should be illegal.

'Gay bans and praise for Putin: the world according to Senate hopeful Roy Moore'

In 2005, Moore said: “Homosexual conduct should be illegal.” In an interview televised on C-Span, Moore added: “It is immoral. It is defined by the law as detestable.” During a debate last week, he went out of his way to bemoan the fact that “sodomy [and] sexual perversion sweep the land”.

[Sean Hayden]

How did all these wankers get to be in these positions?

Maybe we should get rid of many elections, and say something like you can go to a great university only if you serve the state for some period of time afterwards. After you've served you're free to go wherever you want.

[DaveDodo007]

Welp, the likely next US senator will be from Alabama, and he's a complete shithead Christian theocrat bag of hammers. That's the Trump era Republican party for you.

'The 7 most inflammatory things Roy Moore has said'

Republicans clinging to their thin majority in the Senate are now confronting the question about whether to vigorously support insurgent Roy Moore, the highly controversial former judge who handily beat incumbent GOP Sen. Luther Strange in Alabama’s special election on Tuesday night.

Moore, who surged to victory despite President Donald Trump's endorsement of Strange, largely ran on an anti-establishment platform that heavily targeted figures such as Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

...

“You know, we’ve suffered a lot in this country,” he said. “Maybe, just maybe, because we’ve distanced ourselves from the one that has it within his hands to heal this land.”

He indicated that God may be upset because “we legitimize sodomy” and “legitimize abortion.”

...

Years before candidate Trump would propose a Muslim ban and seek to restrict travel from certain Muslim-majority nations with an executive order, Moore penned a December 2006 editorial suggesting Rep. Keith Ellison, the first Muslim elected to Congress, shouldn’t be allowed to serve.

“Islamic law is simply incompatible with our law,” he wrote. “In 1943, we would never have allowed a member of Congress to take their oath on ‘Mein Kampf,’ or someone in the 1950s to swear allegiance to the ‘Communist Manifesto.’ Congress has the authority and should act to prohibit Ellison from taking the congressional oath today!”

Moore believes that sex between men and sex between women should be illegal.

'Gay bans and praise for Putin: the world according to Senate hopeful Roy Moore'

In 2005, Moore said: “Homosexual conduct should be illegal.” In an interview televised on C-Span, Moore added: “It is immoral. It is defined by the law as detestable.” During a debate last week, he went out of his way to bemoan the fact that “sodomy [and] sexual perversion sweep the land”.

Do one, I spent my life as a 'progressive' voting for gay and women's rights and more understanding. What thanks did I get for it. White males are the ebil, die cis white scum, Feminist made up social constructs etc etc. Ungrateful faggotty scumbags. Fuck off out of the white male made western world and see how the rest of the world treats you mentally ill weirdos. 37 fucking genders, anti free speech laws. anti science bullshit, antifa violent thugs. LGBT(alphabet plus.) If I could have my time back again then all faggots should stay in the closet. I used to think the 'slippery slope fallacy' was a fallacy but it turns out I was wrong as the lefty/liberals are pushing peados and beastiality (don't care if I spelt it wrong as I'm sure as hell not googling it.) If I had my time again I would vote no on all progressive issues. The day of the rope can't come soon enough for all you degenerates but trust me it is coming and it is just a pity there isn't a hell for you to go to. Ban me you cunting mods so I never have to listen to your degererate filth again. Fucking cunts.

[Sean Hayden]

[Svartalf]

That's not the trump era for us, that guy was a well entrenched shithead for many years before frump came on the political scene, and he won the primaries against trump candidate (though with the support of frump's former Breitbart 'friend')

[pErvinalia]

Welp, the likely next US senator will be from Alabama, and he's a complete shithead Christian theocrat bag of hammers. That's the Trump era Republican party for you.

'The 7 most inflammatory things Roy Moore has said'

Republicans clinging to their thin majority in the Senate are now confronting the question about whether to vigorously support insurgent Roy Moore, the highly controversial former judge who handily beat incumbent GOP Sen. Luther Strange in Alabama’s special election on Tuesday night.

Moore, who surged to victory despite President Donald Trump's endorsement of Strange, largely ran on an anti-establishment platform that heavily targeted figures such as Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

...

“You know, we’ve suffered a lot in this country,” he said. “Maybe, just maybe, because we’ve distanced ourselves from the one that has it within his hands to heal this land.”

He indicated that God may be upset because “we legitimize sodomy” and “legitimize abortion.”

...

Years before candidate Trump would propose a Muslim ban and seek to restrict travel from certain Muslim-majority nations with an executive order, Moore penned a December 2006 editorial suggesting Rep. Keith Ellison, the first Muslim elected to Congress, shouldn’t be allowed to serve.

“Islamic law is simply incompatible with our law,” he wrote. “In 1943, we would never have allowed a member of Congress to take their oath on ‘Mein Kampf,’ or someone in the 1950s to swear allegiance to the ‘Communist Manifesto.’ Congress has the authority and should act to prohibit Ellison from taking the congressional oath today!”

Moore believes that sex between men and sex between women should be illegal.

'Gay bans and praise for Putin: the world according to Senate hopeful Roy Moore'

In 2005, Moore said: “Homosexual conduct should be illegal.” In an interview televised on C-Span, Moore added: “It is immoral. It is defined by the law as detestable.” During a debate last week, he went out of his way to bemoan the fact that “sodomy [and] sexual perversion sweep the land”.

Do one, I spent my life as a 'progressive' voting for gay and women's rights and more understanding. What thanks did I get for it.

Incoherency and punctuation aside, you make an arse of yourself in your very first two sentences! I did all this stuff for teh gayz and women.... but actually it was all about me me me.

White males are the ebil, die cis white scum, Feminist made up social constructs etc etc. Ungrateful faggotty scumbags. Fuck off out of the white male made western world and see how the rest of the world treats you mentally ill weirdos. 37 fucking genders, anti free speech laws. anti science bullshit, antifa violent thugs. LGBT(alphabet plus.) If I could have my time back again then all faggots should stay in the closet. I used to think the 'slippery slope fallacy' was a fallacy but it turns out I was wrong as the lefty/liberals are pushing peados and beastiality (don't care if I spelt it wrong as I'm sure as hell not googling it.) If I had my time again I would vote no on all progressive issues. The day of the rope can't come soon enough for all you degenerates but trust me it is coming and it is just a pity there isn't a hell for you to go to. Ban me you cunting mods so I never have to listen to your degererate filth again. Fucking cunts.

Given you didn't comment on the wankstain that L'Emmy was reporting on, are we to assume that you too are a theocratic homophobic loon bag?

ETA: You seriously need an intervention..

[JimC]

DaveDodo007 wrote:

...Ban me you cunting mods so I never have to listen to your degererate filth again. Fucking cunts...

No, sweetie, we don't ban here, so you'll just have to put up with wallowing in degenerate filth if you choose to come here...

[Forty Two]

Hermit, still, it's Jesus, abortion and atheism that they worry about. Universities represent all that they hate. Above all, change.

Exactly. Not education as such.

I bet 42 is wholeheartedly in favour of education even while he farts post after post about the pernicious influence of universities and colleges.

I don't fart post after post about the pernicious influence of universities and colleges, per se. I fart post after post about the pernicious influence of certain students and professors with pernicious ideologies.

I also find that the quality of college educations in the United States, and probably the rest of the world too, has greatly declined over the past 50 years. The number of uneducated people graduating colleges is mind-blowing. Admission standards have declined. Grading standards have declined. Testing standards have declined. And, the quality of coursework undertaken by students, to some degree, has declined.

Even, for example, in STEM fields. When I went to engineering school, we had 18 mandatory credit hours as freshmen. Now, the same school requires 15. My professor of calculus in freshmen year pointed out that in the early 70s at that same engineering college, the standard freshman full-time course load was 21 credits.

I think the main reason Republicans tend to answer Tero's referenced polls in the way they do is that they feel that colleges and universities are advancing agendas that they disagree with. They feel that universities are rife with leftists. They're not entirely wrong, as academia has gone from "leaning liberal" around 50 years ago, to "solidly leftist" today (perhaps with the exception of business and science/engineering programs).

[Forty Two]

Hermit, still, it's Jesus, abortion and atheism that they worry about. Universities represent all that they hate. Above all, change.

Exactly. Not education as such.

I bet 42 is wholeheartedly in favour of education even while he farts post after post about the pernicious influence of universities and colleges.

Education that churns out engineers, doctors and lawyers, not arts graduates...

Yes, of course it has to be the "right" (in more ways than one) education, but there's plenty of that to be had in the arts faculties of our august institutions of higher learning. Even in the departments that are often branded as breeding grounds of the revolting classes, such as philosophy, Eng.Lit., economics, sociology, history, media studies,... I hope you realise that both Keith Windshuttle and Andrew Bolt have BA degrees, and they are just two of many right wing hacks who have gone through the Arts Mill.

Once again, folks have a hard time accepting what I actually write. I am very much in favor of the arts - theater - film degrees - photography - painting/drawing - literature - history - etc. I've said before on this forum that I think those are fantastic majors, or minors. An engineer with a theater minor sounds great. A doctor with a minor field of study in French literature. A accountant with a photography minor.

I mean - philosophy, mathematics, classical studies, etc. These are disciplines that afford an education.

What I find of little value are things like gender studies, communications, and that kind of thing - bullshit. Most things with "studies" in the name.

[Forty Two]

Basket of deplorables at it again

“We are deeply concerned about the impact some speakers may have on individuals’ sense of safety and belonging. No one should be made to feel threatened or harassed simply because of who they are or for what they believe.” For that reason, Alivisatos wrote, the university was referring students and faculty to “support services,” including “mental health counseling” for students.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editoria ... story.html

I didn't click on the article. Is the speaker an atheist, like a Dawkins, Harris or Hitchens? And, they are making Christians and Muslims feel threatened or harassed because of the sharp criticism and ridicule of what they believe? Sounds terrible!

Oh, wait, I clicked on the link. It's about left-leaning folks who feel threatened and harassed by guys like Ben Shapiro. Absolutely justified, that.

[pErvinalia]

An engineer with a theater minor sounds great.

No it doesn't, it sounds stupid.

A doctor with a minor field of study in French literature.

I go to a doctor for medical knowledge, not foreign language literature advice.

I mean - philosophy, mathematics, classical studies, etc. These are disciplines that afford an education.

What I find of little value are things like gender studies, communications, and that kind of thing - bullshit.

I happen to think that theater is bullshit, and French literature isn't that far ahead of it. You are just proving the point that Hermit and Jim were making. Basically, you don't like studies that you ideologically disagree with. Theatre is fine for you, because it can't challenge your ideological world view. But theatre is no less bullshit, and probably more bullshit, than some of the "studies" degrees.

[JimC]

pErvin wrote:

...But theatre is no less bullshit, and probably more bullshit, than some of the "studies" degrees...

Philistine!

[JimC]

Forty Two wrote:

...What I find of little value are things like gender studies, communications, and that kind of thing - bullshit. Most things with "studies" in the name...

You find little value in them because to have ideological differences with the people who run such courses. Well, I must admit a lot of their positions seem ludicrous, but the real point is this; do such courses represent a major part of universities today, or are they a minor side-show whose significance is exaggerated because the weird shit they often come up with is so bizarre it is newsworthy?

Your other points about the reduction in rigour of STEM courses may have some traction, but I know that engineering degrees here are still very intense and very challenging, from reports from ex physics students of mine.