"Alt-left" Parading Ignorance, Stupidity, Malice, Etc.

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Post by laklak » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:05 pm

OK, now the horse that the University of Southern California's mascot rides is racist. USC teams are called the "Trojans", and here's their mascot, on the horse, at a football game:

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Looks pretty Trojan to me. BUT - the horse's name is "Traveler". Yep, the same name as Robert E. Lee's horse.

So that means

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Seriously, keep it up, SJWs, we'll have a Republican national government for the next 20 years.

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Never mind Lee's horse was named "Traveller", with two "L"s, and was grey.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:13 pm

laklak wrote:OK, now the horse that the University of Southern California's mascot rides is racist. USC teams are called the "Trojans", and here's their mascot, on the horse, at a football game:

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Culturally appropriating what looks like a Roman, on a Greek horse.. :nono:
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Post by laklak » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:47 pm

Trojan, Roman, Greek - they all love it up the shitter.

Gorgeous horse, though.
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Post by Animavore » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:10 pm

It's like they're using a horse of some kind to sneak in white supremacy undetected.
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Post by Jason » Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:01 am

Regarding iconoclasm and reverence for history the BBC Newshour Extra was intensely interesting today.

Podcast here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3cstygr

Very much worth a listen with very good and articulate panelists (2 Americans - one an African-American female professor, and a Brit from Oxford).

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Post by JimC » Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:29 am

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pErvin wrote:Yeah, but they had a name (and still do) - 'socialists'. Assuming that's who you are talking about.
Nah. I'd no more bundle the alt-left with more or less main stream socialists than the alt-right with more or less main stream capitalists, and I'd be at a total loss as to where I'd put the various shades of social democrats and democratic socialists.
The looney left is a reasonable name, and it includes the tiny but loud clan of university PC leftists that keeps 42 so exercised...
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Post by Hermit » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:21 am

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pErvin wrote:Yeah, but they had a name (and still do) - 'socialists'. Assuming that's who you are talking about.
Nah. I'd no more bundle the alt-left with more or less main stream socialists than the alt-right with more or less main stream capitalists, and I'd be at a total loss as to where I'd put the various shades of social democrats and democratic socialists.
The looney left is a reasonable name, and it includes the tiny but loud clan of university PC leftists that keeps 42 so exercised...
Going by people I am personally acquainted with, those lefties don't know much about the working class. They are the sons and daughters of solidly middle class parents who assist them financially and emotionally to obtain the relevant qualifications for whatever solidly middle class career they have their minds set on./

Before long, most of them return to that background, replete with mortgage and children of their own in a suburban setting, and a job to match. Before you know it, they'll complain about "kids these days", meaning the types they themselves were ten or 20 years earlier, and they'll share stories of "those days" when they were so idealistic, committed, passionate and soooo naïve.

There is nothing new about this. Every generation has had a proportion of youths who protested against whatever the previous generation held dear ever since the masses became literate and relatively mobile. In the late 1700 the German version was the Sturm und Drang movement, a sort of counter-rationalism. Those people were basically proto-postmodernists who didn't think much of the age of Enlightenment. Goethe and Schiller were among those for a while. The next generation flipped back comprehensively, taking classical Greeks and Romans as their role models - which the following generation rejected in turn. They were the romantics. After the Great War, the first one dominated by heavy war machinery and the heavy industries required to produce them, it was back to nature. it's anthem was the much misunderstood song with the refrain
  • We will continue to march,
    When everything shatters;
    Because today Germany hears us,
    And tomorrow the whole World.
was a rejection of this soulless industry that made the wholesale slaughter possible. It was, as the first stanza indicates, a society that turned out rotten to the core and needed to be smashed.
  • The rotten bones are trembling,
    Of the World for [because of] the great War.
    We have smashed this terror,
    For us it was a great victory.
(The WIkipedia's translation is really crappy, but I can't come up with a more accurate one, so it will just have to do) The Nazis appropriated that song by changing one word. By adding a prefix "hears" became "belongs to".

And so it went on. I don't need to tell you about the beatniks, hippies and the Red Brigades, I suppose. It's enough to keep in mind that in all cases the vast majority of rebels returned safely to the fold. Today's preachers of the progressive stack and campaigners against the right of people they don't like to speak at university functions and conferences are tomorrow's dentists and art consultants. (You could also have a look at what has become of you since your uni days :hehe: . I am sorely tempted to help you out by reposting two photos of you, one titled "then", the other titled "now" :lol: ) As for left wing academic staff, just look at what the formidable team of the Frankfurt School has accomplished: Their books and articles resulted in the death of a lot of trees. As far as government and society is concerned, that school may as well never have existed.

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Post by rainbow » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:54 am

Forty Two wrote:
The "university lefty" loonies are running the asylum, at least here in the US.
Get used to it and get a safe room to cry in.
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Post by rainbow » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:56 am

Animavore wrote: Saying there's an "alt left" creates a false equivalence. It is a phrase deliberately made up by the Alt Right and the term seems to include disparate groups such as Black Lives Matter and ISIS. Don't play into their hands.
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Post by Jason » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:36 pm

Assuming any level of intelligence can be dangerous.
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Post by mistermack » Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:53 pm

Hermit wrote: Before long, most of them return to that background, replete with mortgage and children of their own in a suburban setting, and a job to match.
It's called growing up, and most people manage it.
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Post by Forty Two » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:05 pm

Śiva wrote:Assuming any level of intelligence can be dangerous.
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Those principles are not bigoted or racist, but anyone who thinks they are bigoted or racist must be opining in a racist way, because they must think that some race or another lacks those qualities as a race. But, we know an individual or group has/have lost his/her/their marbles when they are claiming that "get an education and work hard" is a problematic or racist comment. And, this is UPenn is in the Ivy League, meaning it's up there with Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Dartmouth. These are supposed to be universities that accept only the cream of the cream of the crop - top test scores, top grades, top extracurricular activities, top everything. And, there are folks admitted to these institutions that can think that "be neighborly, civic minded and charitable" is racist or otherwise worthy of condemnation. Eschew substance abuse and crime is worthy of condemnation? I mean, what's the politically correct statement? You should abuse substances and engage in criminal behavior?

This is what postmodernist progressive leftist bullshit has done. It's creating a swath of jackasses that have to try to think of every last thing as a mere social construct, and therefore an arbitrary judgment. Otherwise intelligent people have just succumbed to some sort of indoctrination, that they can't see even the most benign and common sense statements as anything other than white, patriarchal power grabs.

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Post by Forty Two » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:08 pm

mistermack wrote:
Hermit wrote: Before long, most of them return to that background, replete with mortgage and children of their own in a suburban setting, and a job to match.
It's called growing up, and most people manage it.
Growing up? That's age-ist. People are free to identify as whatever stage of development they like. So, if one wants to remain a six year old forever, then that's their choice. Nobody should be judging that decision, and our society should have policies which support such personal choices and identities. https://www.mediaite.com/online/meet-th ... -old-girl/
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Grow up, indeed! That makes you a 'phobe of some kind!
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