Republicans

[Forty Two]

Trump lap dogs barking at Congressional Budget Office, planning to defund it
https://thinkprogress.org/congressmen-s ... ebb9e8ed33

Good. Defund it.

Why?

Because it is a worthless waste of money.

Do you think a government carries a responsibility to fairly cost its legislative proposals and policies?

I think government has a responsibility to waste as little money as possible, and the CBO does not assist in that regard. It is a political tool, despite being billed as apolitical, and when given the opportunity, both parties use it to puke out numbers that are essentially meaningless because of the garbage-in garbage-out method.

[Forty Two]

Really - you think he really means that if the Senators were men, he'd seriously demand that they step out back for a duel?

No. Mostly because he never said he'd demand that they step out back for a duel. I just go by what Farenthold did say: "If it was a guy from south Texas, I might ask him to step outside and settle this Aaron Burr-style"

Oh, good, then we agree. He wasn't challenging anyone to a duel.

I'm actually surprised that you have not yet argued that this is not even about a duel at all. Firstly, Fartandhold never said "duel", did he?

No, he said "Aaron Burr style" which means dueling, because of the Burr-Hamilton duel. Again, I'm suggesting he was not being literal. He was using a figure of speech.

Secondly, Aaron Burr did many things other than duelling. In fact he only duelled once, but he is said to have fathered at least three children out of wedlock. So, one might say, fucking women he is not married to is settling things Aaron Burr-style. Maybe that is how Fartandhold is desirous of settling this, except he'd rather fuck men.

Sure, but I highly doubt that the Senator meant that if the female senators were men from south Texas, that he'd have them father children out of wedlock. You're free to consider that one of the possibilities he was alluding to. I'm comfortable with the idea that settling something Aaron Burr style means a duel, not fathering children.

And, to carry your manner of argumentation here further, where does fucking men come into it? You mentioned dueling and fathering children out of wedlock as things in the Aaron Burr style. What does fucking men have to do with that? Unless you think that fathering children out of wedlock is done by fucking men. Maybe its a Strayan thing....

[Hermit]

Sure, but I highly doubt that the Senator meant that if the female senators were men from south Texas, that he'd have them father children out of wedlock. You're free to consider that one of the possibilities he was alluding to. I'm comfortable with the idea that settling something Aaron Burr style means a duel, not fathering children.

Burr had one duel. He also fathered three out of wedlock children. Looking at his life objectively, the latter is rather more typical of anything that might be called "Aaron Burr style" by sheer number of occurrences.

[L'Emmerdeur]

Though already posted in the current Trump thread, I think this should be included here, because it shows just how much Republicans actually love the Constitution of the United States. Not so much. It's a convenient talking point that they think proves their patriotism, but in reality a substantial percentage of them are completely fine with an authoritarian power grab when they think it suits their agenda.

"Poll: Half of Republicans would back postponing 2020 election if Trump proposed it"

Slightly more than half of Republicans say they would support postponing the 2020 presidential election if President Trump proposed it to make sure only eligible American citizens can vote, according to a new survey.

According to a poll conducted by two academic authors and published by The Washington Post, 52 percent of Republicans said they would back a postponement of the next election if Trump called for it.

If Trump and congressional Republicans proposed postponing the election to ensure only eligible citizens could vote, support from Republicans rises to 56 percent.

Pollsters found 47 percent of Republicans think Trump won the popular vote.

A majority of Republicans, 68 percent, also thinks millions of illegal immigrants voted in the presidential election and 73 percent think voter fraud happens somewhat or very often.

[Alan B]

If Trump tried that, I think it could be the start of an armed rebellion to oust him.

Something has to happen to get rid of the cunt. The electoral and legal processes are too slow. Doing the 'correct' thing while allowing injustice and stupidity to reign is stupidity itself.

But, then, I suppose most dictators started out with that idea...

[Forty Two]

Sure, but I highly doubt that the Senator meant that if the female senators were men from south Texas, that he'd have them father children out of wedlock. You're free to consider that one of the possibilities he was alluding to. I'm comfortable with the idea that settling something Aaron Burr style means a duel, not fathering children.

Burr had one duel. He also fathered three out of wedlock children. Looking at his life objectively, the latter is rather more typical of anything that might be called "Aaron Burr style" by sheer number of occurrences.

Well, again, you're free to consider that "Aaron Burr" style means "fathering children out of wedlock," in which case when Farenthold was alluding to "Aaron Burr style" he meant that if the female Congressmen were men from South Texas, he'd ask them to step outside and father children out of wedlock. My interpretation, however, is that Farenthold was alluding to a duel when he referred to "stepping outside." Telling someone to "step outside" is a turn of phrase involving settling it man-to-man by fighting. A duel is a manner of fighting. Aaron Burr is famous for his duel - it's taught to children in history books, or at least it was. It's one of the more well known incidents of the American Revolution, whereas the number of children Burr fathered is not generally particularly interesting or well-known, nor does asking someone to step outside and father children make much sense at all.

At least one of the Senators involved understood the reference to be about dueling, and not fathering children. See Senator Collins' statement on the issue. And, most news reports on the topic report that the reference was to the duel.

I think it's safe to say the reference is a tongue-in-cheek reference to a duel.

[Animavore]

If Trump tried that, I think it could be the start of an armed rebellion to oust him.

Something has to happen to get rid of the cunt. The electoral and legal processes are too slow. Doing the 'correct' thing while allowing injustice and stupidity to reign is stupidity itself.

But, then, I suppose most dictators started out with that idea...

If they pull that pond scum from office there'll likely be an armed rebellion. Plenty of Republicans talking about a 2nd civil war and killing liberals. Just go to InfoWars and other rat-infested Republican garbage dispensers and listen to the scary shit these lunatics are spewing. If Trump is removed just watch as colleges and other supposed liberal haunts get gunned down.

[Hermit]

Sure, but I highly doubt that the Senator meant that if the female senators were men from south Texas, that he'd have them father children out of wedlock. You're free to consider that one of the possibilities he was alluding to. I'm comfortable with the idea that settling something Aaron Burr style means a duel, not fathering children.

Burr had one duel. He also fathered three out of wedlock children. Looking at his life objectively, the latter is rather more typical of anything that might be called "Aaron Burr style" by sheer number of occurrences.

Well, again, you're free to consider that "Aaron Burr" style means "fathering children out of wedlock," in which case when Farenthold was alluding to "Aaron Burr style" he meant that if the female Congressmen were men from South Texas, he'd ask them to step outside and father children out of wedlock. My interpretation, however, is that Farenthold was alluding to a duel when he referred to "stepping outside." Telling someone to "step outside" is a turn of phrase involving settling it man-to-man by fighting. A duel is a manner of fighting. Aaron Burr is famous for his duel - it's taught to children in history books, or at least it was. It's one of the more well known incidents of the American Revolution, whereas the number of children Burr fathered is not generally particularly interesting or well-known, nor does asking someone to step outside and father children make much sense at all.

At least one of the Senators involved understood the reference to be about dueling, and not fathering children. See Senator Collins' statement on the issue. And, most news reports on the topic report that the reference was to the duel.

I think it's safe to say the reference is a tongue-in-cheek reference to a duel.

It's groundhog day.

[Tero]

"Kid Rock endorsed Donald Trump for president in 2016 and Republican nominee Mitt Romney in 2012, and Law said the “superficial” idea of Kid Rock as an entertainer and as a “wild redneck” should not deter people from seriously considering his candidacy."

[JimC]

"Kid Rock endorsed Donald Trump for president in 2016 and Republican nominee Mitt Romney in 2012, and Law said the “superficial” idea of Kid Rock as an entertainer and as a “wild redneck” should not deter people from seriously considering his candidacy."

Exactly. He should be a perfect representative for Americans...

[Tero]

Yeehaa! What does this button do? This one for diet coke and this one for the bombs?

[Alan B]

But, but, they're both RED.

[Tero]

GOP, you have a problem. You are only in power thanks to racists.
https://twitter.com/DearAuntCrabby/stat ... 7719318528

[Tero]

Asshole Ryan tries to address the poor
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/catholi ... 06570.html

[Tero]

Well, since, for example, the House budget cuts food stamps by almost $200 million from the food stamp program, one way people might get out of poverty is by starving to death. You will note, by the way, that we are now a loooooonnnng way from the 25th chapter of Matthew.

Ryan: And what I believe, when you look at it that way -- actually, I have a commission that Patty Murray and I set up that's underway right now to focus on these measurements. We need to make sure that we bring people into the workforce. The poverty -- the poor are being marginalized and misaligned in many ways because a lot of the programs that we have, well intended as they may be, are discouraging and dis-incentivizing work.

OK, so here is what I don't get. First of all, a great many poor people work their asses off, and in the private sector, too, and they're being patronized by a guy who hasn't spent 15 seconds in the private sector since he went away to college. His family got rich building roads on government contracts. His father died, and he went through high school on Social Security's survivor benefits, a program that the budget proposed by the president* would eviscerate. Since then, he's been a congressional aide and a congressman. My question is that, when he was going through high school on my nickel, and the nickels of millions of other Americans, including the poorer ones, why wasn't he "disincentivized"? How did he avoid the terrible trap of the government "hammock"?

We were just -- no, it's true. We were just talking about it. We were just talking about tax reform. And I was telling you about these successful small businesses in Wisconsin, they got a 44.6 percent tax rate. That's not the highest tax rate payer. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, who deserves every salary, is not the highest tax rate payer in this state. You know who it is? It's a single mom getting $24,000 grand in benefits with two kids who will lose 80 cents on the dollar if she goes and takes a job.
Surely you recall that passage from the gospels where Jesus talks about lowering the top rate and doing away with estate taxes. (It was in the small print, and in Aramaic, at the bottom of the scroll.) And, anyway, the budget proposed by the House of Representatives-Paul Ryan, Speaker-would cut programs that would benefit that "single mom" by over $3 trillion.

Ryan: We have to fix that. And that is why we have to fix it not by just kicking people off callously…

I'm sorry, but I have to stop here. This guy is still fighting for a policy that the Congressional Budget Office says would kick 30 million Americans off their health insurance. Maybe Ryan plans not to do this "callously." Maybe he's going to hand out balloons and lollipops. And, anyway, wasn't this supposed to be about the gap between his policies and the teachings of his faith? I wish that nun had a ruler.

from that Yahoo link