It was a difficult proposition to pass the 13th Amendment, as the House of Representatives was rather divided and a constitutional amendment requires a supermajority. There was a lot of back and forth over the amendment, and it finally passed, by two votes. Up until the vote, it was not entirely certain that it would pass.L'Emmerdeur wrote:Oh, OK, thanks for that history lesson. Maybe you can tell me about the 3 or 4 times that Lincoln tried to get the 13th Amendment through Congress before he finally succeeded.Forty Two wrote:The Emancipation Proclamation was not the full abolition of slavery. It ended slavery only in states in rebellion. There were slaveholding union states. Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland and Missouri never declared secession, so the emancipation proclamation did not effect them.
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Trump clown car gets another shuffle
Trump names Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly as White House chief of staff, ousting Reince Priebus
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Trump names Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly as White House chief of staff, ousting Reince Priebus
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The vote in the Senate was 38 to 6 in favor. It took two votes in the House (not "three or four") and the vote was 119 to 56 in favor (7 more votes than the required 2/3rds majority).Forty Two wrote:It was a difficult proposition to pass the 13th Amendment, as the House of Representatives was rather divided and a constitutional amendment requires a supermajority. There was a lot of back and forth over the amendment, and it finally passed, by two votes. Up until the vote, it was not entirely certain that it would pass.
In 1864, an amendment abolishing slavery passed the U.S. Senate but died in the House as Democrats rallied in the name of states’ rights. The election of 1864 brought Lincoln back to the White House along with significant Republican majorities in both houses, so it appeared the amendment was headed for passage when the new Congress convened in March 1865. Lincoln preferred that the amendment receive bipartisan support–some Democrats indicated support for the measure, but many still resisted. The amendment passed 119 to 56, seven votes above the necessary two-thirds majority.
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When are you people going to realise that Trump is really a liberal? He's not a conservative or a Republican.
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https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2017 ... tor/217420Fox's Jesse Watters: "A lot of people wish President Trump was a dictator"
Watters: Maybe then "we could repeal Obamacare"

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Burn!


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So much fail.
Tired of "winning" yet?
Tired of "winning" yet?
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It's Maxwell Smart time: KAOS and Control
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watc ... 2666435586
KAOS
http://getsmart.wikia.com/wiki/KAOS
Trump will get all of Crimea and live and golf there with Natasha. Before that, Putin will invade Ukraine as soon as the Trump impeachment hearing starts.
With Trump as King, Crimea is renamed Melania.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watc ... 2666435586
KAOS
http://getsmart.wikia.com/wiki/KAOS
Trump will get all of Crimea and live and golf there with Natasha. Before that, Putin will invade Ukraine as soon as the Trump impeachment hearing starts.
With Trump as King, Crimea is renamed Melania.
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Dont shout to loudly about Foxconn. It looks like a con merchant.
Foxconn's $10bn move to the US is not a reason to celebrate
The company doesn’t have a great track record of keeping its job-creation promises, for one. Then there’s the issue of worker conditions in China
The announcement by the Chinese giant Foxconn that it will build an LCD-manufacturing facility in Wisconsin worth an estimated $10bn was met with considerable fanfare.
But the state has a troubled history in matters of economic development and the company, a supplier to Apple, Google, Amazon and other tech giants, has a lackluster record when it comes to fulfilling its promises. The news should raise red flags.
The deal, backers say, will create 13,000 jobs in six years – in return for a reported $3bn in state subsidies. Only 3,000 of those jobs will come immediately. Furthermore, the Washington Post has reported that Foxconn has a track record of breaking such job-creation promises. In 2013, the company announced plans to hire 500 people and invest $30m in Pennsylvania. The plan fizzled out.
Wisconsin’s Republican governor, Scott Walker, was elected in 2010 on a campaign pledge to bring 250,000 jobs to the state. So far he has fallen short. A successful Foxconn project would be a major step towards repairing his damaged credibility.
On Friday, he had a rejoinder for doubters of the project. At a stop in Eau Claire as he toured the state to promote the deal, the governor said: “There’s a whole lot of people out there scrambling to try and come up with a reason not to like this. I can tell you, that’s fine but I think they can go suck lemons.”
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Wildlife refuge to be destroyed for Trump fence
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