The US Healthcare Mass Debate

[JimC]

Neeps!

[Scot Dutchy]

They are not neeps Jim but spring turnips.

This is a neep:



Here is a field of them.

[Tero]

The news stories always talk of "older sicker" Americans. It's just easier to write it that way. The older are often not sicker, just more likely to be somewhat overweight and suffer from that (knees) and more likely to have strokes and heart attacks at age 55-65
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl= ... pt0-816561

Trump's beautiful bill is essentially the same, with only Ted Cruz added for getting his amendment in:

"No breakthroughs. We remain in the same camp," said Dean Heller of Nevada who has been a big problem for McConnell. "No," said Sen. Rob Portman when he was questioned about whether his opposition to the proposed reductions in Medicaid had changed.

[Forty Two]

I think this is it. Nothing much more is coming. Subsidies or tax cuts to fund but this BILL will not buy 20 million the insurance. The insurance companies willbe able to pick and choose
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 475058001/

Most of that 20 million don't get subsidies now.

[Tero]

Insurers don’t have to cover birth control under GOP’s revised health bill

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... li=BBnb7Kz

[Tero]

Republicans still in favor of holding back healthcare from Welfare Queens, medieval scholars, ballet dancers, painters, artists of all sort, gays, lesbians, pregnant women who aren't married, and all sorts of useless people

Sixty-one percent of Americans polled said they hold unfavorable views of the plan to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act (ACA), an increase from the 55 percent who held negative views in June.

The poll also found that the public’s views are becoming more passionate. According to Kaiser, 44 percent of the people polled hold “very unfavorable” views of the plan, up from 38 percent in June.


But the public views of ObamaCare repeal efforts are still being driven along party lines. A majority of self-identified Trump supporters and Republicans said they have favorable views of the replacement plan.

[Tero]

Buy states with extra funds one by one? How will they pay for it with 3.8% tax repealed?

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's latest health care bill has something for Louisiana and its two Republican senators — money.

The Kentucky Republican's new legislation changes how much money states that expanded their Medicaid programs for the poor last year would get. McConnell is trying to nail down 50 of the 52 GOP senators' votes so he can push the measure through his chamber next week.

Louisiana GOP Sen. John Kennedy said the "unfair treatment" under McConnell's original bill would have cost the state $2 billion. His GOP colleague, Sen. Bill Cassidy, said the change resolves a "Louisiana specific issue."

Democrats said the changes seemed aimed at helping Louisiana. They said the revisions would also help Alaska and Montana — home to three GOP senators and one Democrat.

[Tero]

Money is flowing. Those tough 2018 elections.

White House launches aggressive push to flip GOP governors opposed to Senate health bill

[Tero]

It's actually totally useless work, as all will be revised in 2020-2021. Fixing healthcare will require money, tax money.

If the current Senate legislation collapses, some lawmakers have raised the possibility of seeking bipartisan legislation to fix parts of Obamacare but leaving intact the structure of the Affordable Care Act, Democratic former President Barack Obama's signature legislative achievement, commonly known as Obamacare.

Currently two will vote no:
Two GOP senators have indicated they oppose the new version of the bill and 11 others have expressed concerns with some form of the bill.*
If three vote against it, the bill would fail.
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Collins
Maine NO
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Paul
Ky. NO
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POSSIBLE NO
Capito
W.Va.
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Cassidy
La.
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Corker
Tenn.
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Heller
Nev.
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Hoeven
N.D.
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Lee
Utah
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McCain
Ariz.
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Moran
Kan.
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Murkowski
Alaska
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Portman
Ohio
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Sasse
Neb.

[Tero]

You think they would? They voted Trump thinking their insurance premiums would go down!
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/0 ... ump-237979

[Tero]

Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval still doesn't support the Senate health bill. That's big trouble for Republicans.

[Tero]

McCain's Surgery Will Delay Senate Votes on Health Care Bill

[pErvinalia]

I didn't know you could get surgery for dementia.

[Tero]

They installed some device that makes his eyes look like they are working, when he faces you.

[Achtland]

McCain's Surgery Will Delay Senate Votes on Health Care Bill

are chips (fries) covered under the health care polices of the Senate?