Britain is going to be Tory for at least 10 years.

[Scot Dutchy]

I would do her but not the dog. A bit bony mind.

[PsychoSerenity]

It's seems the last politician to (publicly) use the phrase here was a Tory peer back in 2008. He was 73 at the time meaning he grew up in the 30s and 40s so you can sort of understand the excuse (even though it's not much of an excuse for anyone who's lived through the intervening time) he gave - "slipped out without my thinking", and added: "It was common parlance when I was younger". But Morris grew up in the 60s so she could only have learned to use the phrase from people, and by being someone, who made no attempt to avoid racist language while it was quite publicly being condemned.

[Brian Peacock]

I agree PS. She should have used 'Mexican' or 'Muslim' instead.

[Hermit]

I agree PS. She should have used 'Mexican' or 'Muslim' 'continental European' instead.

[Brian Peacock]

Or perhaps 'fucking boat jumper' would be more, shall we say, colourful...

A viscount who offered money on Facebook for anyone to run over and kill anti-Brexit campaigner Gina Miller is facing jail after being convicted of sending menacing messages.

Rhodri Philipps, the 4th Viscount St Davids, wrote a message on the social media site just four days after Miller won a landmark high court challenge against the government last year:

“£5,000 for the first person to ‘accidentally’ run over this bloody troublesome first generation immigrant.”

He described Miller as a “fucking boat jumper” and added: “If this is what we should expect from immigrants, send them back to their stinking jungles.”

Philipps, also known as Lord St Davids, was replying to a post about “naughty suggestions, dirty ideas and anything that will give me an orgasm” on 11 November last year....

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... unt-brexit

[mistermack]

I think that "nigger in the woodpile" in this country is an old public school, or Oxbridge saying that was never common parlance among the unwashed masses.
I first heard it from our geography teach in our Grammar School. None of the class knew what the hell he was on about, and he explained it meant a lurking unsuspected pitfall. Neither the posh kids or the trash like me had a clue what he was talking about.
Not that we were worried by the word nigger. It was just a bit unusual at the time. But he thought it was an everyday phrase or saying.

Around that time, you could still buy paint boxes for children with the colour, "nigger brown" listed along with aqua-marine etc.
The word wasn't a no-no, but was beginning to fade out. ( Around 1964 ).
The lead in the paint was probably more dangerous than the name.

[JimC]

Using an old saying like that, (not politically correct of course), is a little different to referring to people of colour as niggers... Is the MP in question of a certain age?

A faux pas no doubt, but not the evidence of racism that some will take it to be...

WTF? (a) Anyone with the slightest awareness that racism is a THING (as any politician claiming to represent people must surely have) and three brain cells to rub together, would have picked up somewhere along the line that it's not OK to call people niggers, along with a number of other historically-loaded racial slurs.

(b) I've never heard the term "nigger in the woodpile" before, but I'm informed that it refers to the idea of something ominous and dangerous lurking where you can't see it, ready to spring out and attack you or just generally wreak havoc on things. How can that be anything BUT a pejorative view of people of colour? How can it NOT be absolutely loaded with negative stereotypes about people of colour?

It's absolutely disgraceful. She should be thrown out of the house.

Sure, in this modern age it is a loaded term, which I agree is inappropriate and should no longer be used. But, my (presumably) young friend, there are sayings from the past that people used without any malice attached, even if their derivation is suspect. People of a past generation would have used such phrases without the malevolent intent of a KKK member warning niggers to get out of town...

[pErvinalia]

I know lak, he would definitely do the bitch, and then her owner.

[pErvinalia]

Using an old saying like that, (not politically correct of course), is a little different to referring to people of colour as niggers... Is the MP in question of a certain age?

A faux pas no doubt, but not the evidence of racism that some will take it to be...

WTF? (a) Anyone with the slightest awareness that racism is a THING (as any politician claiming to represent people must surely have) and three brain cells to rub together, would have picked up somewhere along the line that it's not OK to call people niggers, along with a number of other historically-loaded racial slurs.

(b) I've never heard the term "nigger in the woodpile" before, but I'm informed that it refers to the idea of something ominous and dangerous lurking where you can't see it, ready to spring out and attack you or just generally wreak havoc on things. How can that be anything BUT a pejorative view of people of colour? How can it NOT be absolutely loaded with negative stereotypes about people of colour?

It's absolutely disgraceful. She should be thrown out of the house.

Sure, in this modern age it is a loaded term, which I agree is inappropriate and should no longer be used. But, my (presumably) young friend, there are sayings from the past that people used without any malice attached, even if their derivation is suspect. People of a past generation would have used such phrases without the malevolent intent of a KKK member warning niggers to get out of town...

False dichotomy. Not being a KKK member like person warning niggers to get out of town, doesn't mean someone isn't a racist.

[Brian Peacock]

I think that "nigger in the woodpile" in this country is an old public school, or Oxbridge saying that was never common parlance among the unwashed masses.
I first heard it from our geography teach in our Grammar School. None of the class knew what the hell he was on about, and he explained it meant a lurking unsuspected pitfall. Neither the posh kids or the trash like me had a clue what he was talking about.
Not that we were worried by the word nigger. It was just a bit unusual at the time. But he thought it was an everyday phrase or saying.

Around that time, you could still buy paint boxes for children with the colour, "nigger brown" listed along with aqua-marine etc.
The word wasn't a no-no, but was beginning to fade out. ( Around 1964 ).
The lead in the paint was probably more dangerous than the name.

[Hermit]

My favourite sweet:



Every other spare 5 Pfennig was converted to a Negerkuss, also known as Mohrenkopf (Moore's Head) at the little kiosk just outside school in Germany. Apparently they are now mostly known as Schokokuss ("Chocolate Kiss"), Schaumküsse or Schaumkuss ("Foam Kiss").

Good ones are almost impossible to get in Australia. For a couple of years a shopkeeper in Belmore, a suburb in Sydney, obtained a supply from some bakery somewhere in Melbourne, but only in winter. Gawdfuckingawful imitations abound.

[JimC]

To top this, Hermit, you'll need to post a pic of you in blackface...

[Hermit]

To top this, Hermit, you'll need to post a pic of you in blackface...

You really surprise me now. Jim. I would have lost biggly, had I bet on you gleefully pointing out that I admitted that one other thing than the Hume Highway can come out of Melbourne.

[rainbow]

Very quaint.

We used to have racists in Africa, but found them hard to stomach.

[Scot Dutchy]

Here they were called 'negerzoenen' now zoenen (kisses). Or the white chocolate version; white kisses.
We also have moorkoppen and jodenkoek. Of course Zwarte Piet.