We need to talk about Donald – the Nightmare continues

[DaveDodo007]

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Also fuck Climate Change as only the strong deserve to survive.

[Animavore]

Trump sparked a CEO revolt. Here's why
by Chris Isidore and Julia Horowitz @CNNMoney
June 2, 2017: 3:39 PM ET
CEOs are cautious by nature, circumspect in their words and actions.
So maybe the most amazing thing that occurred Thursday wasn't that President Trump pulled out of the Paris climate deal. It was the response from the corner office: A string of CEOs loudly voiced strong opposition to his action.
"It's an absolutely bizarre and unprecedented moment in American history," presidential historian Douglas Brinkely told CNNMoney. He called the reaction a sign of just how damaged the Trump brand is in the eyes of corporate America.
"Donald Trump is such a pariah figure that companies want zero association with his brand," Brinkley said. "He's championing dirty air and polluted water. He's anti-science. Why would a Fortune 500 CEO want to be associated with that?"
Related: Top CEOs tell the CEO president - You're wrong on Paris
Critics of Trump's decision worry that U.S. companies will miss out on opportunities to profit from a global move to reduce carbon emissions. Countries, businesses and consumers will spend trillions in the coming decades on greener vehicles, equipment and sources of power.
More immediately, CEOs might be worried about selling their products abroad, where Trump's decision is overwhelmingly unpopular.
"There could be a stigma attached to every U.S. firm," said Greg Valliere, chief global strategist with Horizon Investments. "If you're marketing a movie or a product in Western Europe, you've got to be worried about how this is being perceived. They can now say, 'Don't blame us, we came out strongly against this.' It's in their own self-interest."
And it's not just people in the rest of the world who are upset with the president's actions. The decision plays well with his base. But a joint poll by the Harvard school of public health and Politico found 62% of Americans supported staying in the Paris agreement.
"You can not run a major American corporation appealing to Donald Trump's 38%," said Brinkley.

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http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/02/news/co ... index.html

[Hermit]

Forty Two wrote:

...and the use of massive amounts of land for wind farms...

That is a complete nonsense, of course. Every wind farm that I have seen in Oz is built on agricultural land, without any reduction in its use by farmers. Cattle and sheep happily graze under the graceful towers, while the farmers concerned (including by brother-in-law) earn a tidy sum in rental, as well as their normal farming income...

Section of one of three wind farms I drive past on my way to Adelaide. Apart from the footings for the towers the land gets used for either growing canola or grazing sheep. The owners of the land also get a useful rental return from the electricity generators.



There are also offshore wind farms. The Commonwealth and the Victorian governments announced the undertaking of a study for one of those. If the project goes ahead it'll be located off the Gippsland coast. Situated in the path of the roaring forties it's an area that gets just about constant wind. It will cost around 8 billion dollars and 250 turbines spread across 570 square kilometres will feed enough electricity into the existing grid to supply 18% of Victoria's electricity needs. (Link) If it goes ahead Victoria will be burning a lot less brown coal, which is its main source for electricity generation right now.

[pErvinalia]

For those saying Trump doesn't know what he's talking about I'll just put a couple links here:

Top gainers on the NYSE for Friday June 2 (a LOT of fossil fuels):
http://www.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_30 ... ainer.html

Top losers on the NYSE for Friday June 2 (a LOT of renewable energy):
http://www.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_30 ... loser.html

The S&P 500 was up 0.62%, the Dow Jones Industrial Average increased 0.64%, and the Nasdaq rose 0.78% on Thursday June 1. Additionally, the S&P 500 was up another 0.37%, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was up another 0.29%, and the Nasdaq was up a whopping 0.94% today.

What does a short term gambling market have to do with Trump's competency?

[pErvinalia]

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Also fuck Climate Change as only the strong deserve to survive.

Well you're fucked then, aren't you?

[pErvinalia]

As Hermit said, offshore wind farms are a fantastic idea as the wind is nearly constant, and it's strong down in the southern ocean off Australia.

[pErvinalia]

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[Animavore]

"Only the strong deserve to survive". This reminds me of when Seth said, "Adapt or die", about climate change (in other posts he denies climate change, but consistency and non-contradiction are not the denier's strongest point).

It shows the moral bankruptcy of the American far right. The attitude is let the disasters come. Those who have the most and fortitude will weather the storm. The poor all over the World who don't have the simple means to globetrot deserve their fate.

Of course it's completely lost on these idiots that switching to renewables and sustainability is adapting for the preservation of the species.

[pErvinalia]

It's social Darwinism. Only one step removed from Nazi ideology. It's not surprising that DaveDodo supports it (despite being clearly one of the weak) given the hardon he's got for fascism and fascists (see Putin).

[Animavore]

This isn't the Onion. It isn't satire. It isn't fake news. Sean Spicer actually said this.

“My point is – it’s beyond whether or not it happened intentionally. Many of you may not like it, but the fact is that Donald Trump is the head of state and as such, it is within his legal right and power to decide how words in the English language are spelled, written, conjugated and all that good stuff. We have a beautiful language, but the thing about languages is – they’re living, breathing organisms. They change and they evolve along with the people who speak them, so it’s a natural progression. I wouldn’t be surprised if ‘covfefe’ turns up on Wikipedia or in dictionaries in schools throughout America as early as tomorrow. Because, that’s just one of the many perks of being President of the United States. It comes with the territory and it’s up to you to decide whether or not you want to use it,”

http://uspoln.com/2017/06/02/spicer-pot ... h-spelled/

[Animavore]

Emmanuel Macron has just won the rare distinction of being the most re-tweeted French person in history.

In less than 24 hours, his Trump-defying message "make our planet great again" was shared more than 140,000 times, easily ousting the previous record-holder, the rather less high-minded TV presenter Cyril Hanouna. One fifth of the re-tweets were in the US.

It is proof yet again that what we witnessed from the Elysee on Thursday was a master class in communications.

A growing fan club

In giving his TV reaction to the US president, not only did Macron break brazenly with longstanding convention, according to which French presidents never speak publicly in English, but he even had the chutzpah to subvert the US leader's personal campaign slogan.

"Make our planet great again" was a provocation dressed up as a call to virtue. As a catchphrase for the faithful, it was irresistible.

By tweeting it, Macron took one more step down his road to investiture as that long-awaited international figure: the anti-Trump.

The anti-Trump.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40140113?SThisFB

[Alan B]

"Covfefe"=

Come On Voters Fuck Environmental Fuck Earth.

(Acknowledgements to Sue Perkins on The Last Leg.)

[pErvinalia]

Emmanuel Macron has just won the rare distinction of being the most re-tweeted French person in history.

In less than 24 hours, his Trump-defying message "make our planet great again" was shared more than 140,000 times, easily ousting the previous record-holder, the rather less high-minded TV presenter Cyril Hanouna. One fifth of the re-tweets were in the US.

It is proof yet again that what we witnessed from the Elysee on Thursday was a master class in communications.

A growing fan club

In giving his TV reaction to the US president, not only did Macron break brazenly with longstanding convention, according to which French presidents never speak publicly in English, but he even had the chutzpah to subvert the US leader's personal campaign slogan.

"Make our planet great again" was a provocation dressed up as a call to virtue. As a catchphrase for the faithful, it was irresistible.

By tweeting it, Macron took one more step down his road to investiture as that long-awaited international figure: the anti-Trump.

The anti-Trump.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40140113?SThisFB

[Brian Peacock]

For those saying Trump doesn't know what he's talking about I'll just put a couple links here:

Top gainers on the NYSE for Friday June 2 (a LOT of fossil fuels):
http://www.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_30 ... ainer.html

Top losers on the NYSE for Friday June 2 (a LOT of renewable energy):
http://www.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_30 ... loser.html

The S&P 500 was up 0.62%, the Dow Jones Industrial Average increased 0.64%, and the Nasdaq rose 0.78% on Thursday June 1. Additionally, the S&P 500 was up another 0.37%, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was up another 0.29%, and the Nasdaq was up a whopping 0.94% today.

And so? How does a slight increase in the betting on future profitss fit in here?

[Scot Dutchy]

We have already a couple of large wind farms at sea. Two massive farms are under construction but we have a few Luddites (you always do) complaining about 'rubbishing the horizon'. We have them all over the place. Dykes are very popular.



At sea: