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Re: The Ethics of Punching Nazis

Post by Forty Two » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:35 pm

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“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: The Ethics of Punching Nazis

Post by Tyrannical » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:32 pm

We need laws against socialism. And empowering laws that makes it legal to shoot socialists on sight . The only thing worse than a national socialist is a socialist.
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Re: The Ethics of Punching Nazis

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:27 pm

Forty Two wrote:The issue with that incident is who threw the first punch. Rosealma was there to take scalps, and she said so. But, that doesn't mean she deserved to get hit. She deserved to get hit if she attacked someone, and vice versa. She would be legitimately allowed to hit someone if someone attacked her. I wouldn't assume either party here was guilty. I've seen video footage, which seems inconclusive as to who was the aggressor. Perhaps both were.
Ah, OK, good. Please tell me the timestamp in which you see an indication that Rosealma might have thrown the first punch. Nobody who is defending Damigo has said that Rosealma attacked him--they're asserting that she was preparing to throw an M-80 in a bottle into the crowd. Where do you get the idea that she might have been assaulting Damigo? Damigo punches her for the second time at timestamp 0:32. She appears onscreen from the left at timestamp 0:31, with no sign of Damigo until he leaps forward and punches her. The first time he punched her was at timestamp 0:22, screenshots below. Your disingenuous "inconclusive" is unsurprising though. She's "leftist scum," after all.

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The video is good evidence that Nathan Damigo is a chickenshit asswipe who likes to sucker-punch women.
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Re: The Ethics of Punching Nazis

Post by laklak » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:39 pm

Shit, you throw an M-80 into a crowd around here you'll likely get shot. Probably why nobody does it here. :dunno:
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Re: The Ethics of Punching Nazis

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:50 pm

laklak wrote:Shit, you throw an M-80 into a crowd around here you'll likely get shot. Probably why nobody does it here. :dunno:
Previously linked: "Was a Protester Throwing Explosives Into a Berkeley Crowd Before She Was Punched?"

Precis: No, Rosealma was not preparing to throw an M-80, in a bottle or otherwise.

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Re: The Ethics of Punching Nazis

Post by Forty Two » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:57 pm

Tyrannical wrote:We need laws against socialism. And empowering laws that makes it legal to shoot socialists on sight . The only thing worse than a national socialist is a socialist.
Socialism is hate speech.
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Re: The Ethics of Punching Nazis

Post by DaveDodo007 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:54 am

Tyrannical wrote:We need laws against socialism. And empowering laws that makes it legal to shoot socialists on sight . The only thing worse than a national socialist is a socialist.
National Socialist were socialist as they did genocide and all that.
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Re: The Ethics of Punching Nazis

Post by DaveDodo007 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:01 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Forty Two wrote:The issue with that incident is who threw the first punch. Rosealma was there to take scalps, and she said so. But, that doesn't mean she deserved to get hit. She deserved to get hit if she attacked someone, and vice versa. She would be legitimately allowed to hit someone if someone attacked her. I wouldn't assume either party here was guilty. I've seen video footage, which seems inconclusive as to who was the aggressor. Perhaps both were.
Ah, OK, good. Please tell me the timestamp in which you see an indication that Rosealma might have thrown the first punch. Nobody who is defending Damigo has said that Rosealma attacked him--they're asserting that she was preparing to throw an M-80 in a bottle into the crowd. Where do you get the idea that she might have been assaulting Damigo? Damigo punches her for the second time at timestamp 0:32. She appears onscreen from the left at timestamp 0:31, with no sign of Damigo until he leaps forward and punches her. The first time he punched her was at timestamp 0:22, screenshots below. Your disingenuous "inconclusive" is unsurprising though. She's "leftist scum," after all.

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Re: The Ethics of Punching Nazis

Post by rainbow » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:26 am

DaveDodo007 wrote: Women are equal, gender is a social construct, ho noes don't hit a girl. Fuck off feminist and SJW as either women are equal to men or they are not. Pick one and stick with it or fuck off you hypocrites.
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Re: The Ethics of Punching Nazis

Post by Animavore » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:46 am

Are you guys still on about this subject? 24 flipping pages! They're just Nazis, ffs.
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Re: The Ethics of Punching Nazis

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:53 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:Women are equal, gender is a social construct, ho noes don't hit a girl. Fuck off feminist and SJW as either women are equal to men or they are not. Pick one and stick with it or fuck off you hypocrites.
Damigo appears to weigh close to twice what Rosealma does. For your delicate sensibilities, take it as read that I said, "The video is good evidence that Nathan Damigo is a chickenshit asswipe who likes to sucker-punch people half his size."

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Re: The Ethics of Punching Nazis

Post by JimC » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:03 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:Women are equal, gender is a social construct, ho noes don't hit a girl. Fuck off feminist and SJW as either women are equal to men or they are not. Pick one and stick with it or fuck off you hypocrites.
Damigo appears to weigh close to twice what Rosealma does. For your delicate sensibilities, take it as read that I said, "The video is good evidence that Nathan Damigo is a chickenshit asswipe who likes to sucker-punch people half his size."
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