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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:15 pm

I was asking who he was talking about. He used the word.
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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:18 pm

Animavore wrote:Donnie's words come back to bite him on the arse re: his Muslim ban.

http://secondnexus.com/politics-and-eco ... d5f3e08d7d
We all know this is a Muslim ban. It was promised on the campaign trail and promoted as such before the election, and it's apparent national security justification is seriously undermined by the fact that the number of domestic terrorist attack by immigrants or visitors from the nominated states is exactly zero. This leaves that justification hanging on the assumption that Muslims are inherently terroristic, which further pushes the order into the territory of a religious ban - thus contravening the establishment clause of the constitution.

Some are arguing that the President's obligation to the constitution only applies to domestic policy that effects citizens - not visitors or immigrants who haven't gained citizenship. This is a silly argument.
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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:20 pm

I remember that Coito fellow used to be a centralist just left of centre. The image is gone but I remembered this one specifically because he was on the exact same part of the compass as me. He didn't identify as a right-winger.

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 05#p452842

Don't know why I'm mentioning this. I miss that fella, I guess.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:45 pm

Animavore wrote:I remember that Coito fellow used to be a centralist just left of centre. The image is gone but I remembered this one specifically because he was on the exact same part of the compass as me. He didn't identify as a right-winger.

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 05#p452842

Don't know why I'm mentioning this. I miss that fella, I guess.
I just took the test again. Seems I've drifted slightly to the right in the last 4 years.
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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Hermit » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:51 pm

Forty Two wrote:
pErvin wrote:What's so fucking hilarious (not) about all this, is that we've all had this same fucking argument with you before (before your dishonest bait-switch scam from CES to 42). You really are fucking clueless, and your utter shamelessness at refusing to admit that you are constantly wrong is embarrassment off the scale.

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=42144
LOL - this is your example?
I thought "The US under Bush and now continued and extended by Obama is fast approaching a fascistic police state." is a pretty damning statement about Obama.
Forty Two wrote:Your posts in that thread are not criticisms in and of themselves, merely commentary asserting that there are criticisms being leveled out there
Now I wonder how many posts you read. Kindly scroll up about seven or so of them.
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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:55 pm

Trump's fossil interest shill administration cut four Earth science projects including DSCOVR. So what? You just gonna let this satellite rot in space after all that effort?

http://www.iflscience.com/space/trump-c ... st-budget/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Sp ... bservatory

To reiterate; this is the most disgustingly corrupt and dangerous corporate and energy government the US has ever seen. People aren't merely being hysterical when they say that these guys need to be moved, fast, before they cause irreparable harm. How much further can these immoral rich people push the poor and destroy health and lives before something gives?
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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:58 pm

If you don't like what the data shows, just get rid of the data. Easy.
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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:02 pm

I'm really hoping NASA strike. They can't just abandon expensive and important research like that. Trump, Bannon, and Tillerson have a lot to answer for. If they're not all behind bars in a few years I'm quitting life.
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Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:12 pm

Shoody, unregulated, stem cell trial leads to 3 women going blind.

https://www.labroots.com/trending/cell- ... ign=buffer

More of this to come as the FDA gets less funding and more deregulation leads to more people put at risk from avaricious pharmaceutical companies. This is why we can't simply "let the market decide'.
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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:27 pm

The article was published today, but the procedures were done a year or two ago. So, if any administration is to blame for these women going to a clinic they found offering an unregulated clinical trial which they found on opentrials.gov which disclosed that it was unregulated, then it's the Obama administration. Right?

Or was the Obama administration ok but now that Trump is in there it's a problem?

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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:31 pm

Trump's idiotic budget will cripple America's leading role in science and tech.

http://www.aaas.org/news/presidents-bud ... -aaas-says

Not to mention the immigrant brains they're missing out on.

Oh well. They had their time in the Sun. China and India are forging on, set to become the World's leading energy superpower in renewables while the US pedals backwards putting their chips into dying technology. Europe, except the UK, maybe even only England at this stage, are starting to look East now.
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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:37 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Animavore wrote:I remember that Coito fellow used to be a centralist just left of centre. The image is gone but I remembered this one specifically because he was on the exact same part of the compass as me. He didn't identify as a right-winger.

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 05#p452842

Don't know why I'm mentioning this. I miss that fella, I guess.
I just took the test again. Seems I've drifted slightly to the right in the last 4 years.
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That can't be right. Surely the upper right quadrant shouldn't exist? :dunno:
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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:15 pm

Libertarianism: The belief that out of all the terrible things governments can do, helping people is the absolute worst.

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Post by Seth » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:56 pm

Animavore wrote:I'm really hoping NASA strike. They can't just abandon expensive and important research like that. Trump, Bannon, and Tillerson have a lot to answer for. If they're not all behind bars in a few years I'm quitting life.
Why wait?
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