The Ethics of Punching Nazis

[Hermit]

I think what happens a lot is those on the left are more and more categorizing...

It's more than a little ironic that you should say that.

[Feck]

Nazism is as violent and toxic as radical Islam (that's not an idle comparison btw), but I guess radicalising Imam's have just the same protected rights as fulminating Nazi's when it comes to standing up in public to propagate their hateful credo - wouldn't you agree?

All Islam is violent and toxic It isn't some benign well meaning faith that has been corrupted by 'radicals' It is 'evil ' Root and Branch it always has been it always will be ! You understand that about National Socialism But FAIL to get that point about the religion of The Paedophile and his rapist slave- trading friends .
Of course If you can explain how the cult of personality around Adolf is so much worse than the semi- deification of Mohammed which is the first requirement of ALL Muslims I'd love to hear it .
I still don't think punching people is the answer , no matter how tempting

[Brian Peacock]

Nazism is as violent and toxic as radical Islam (that's not an idle comparison btw), but I guess radicalising Imam's have just the same protected rights as fulminating Nazi's when it comes to standing up in public to propagate their hateful credo - wouldn't you agree?

All Islam is violent and toxic It isn't some benign well meaning faith that has been corrupted by 'radicals' It is 'evil ' Root and Branch it always has been it always will be ! You understand that about National Socialism But FAIL to get that point about the religion of The Paedophile and his rapist slave- trading friends .
Of course If you can explain how the cult of personality around Adolf is so much worse than the semi- deification of Mohammed which is the first requirement of ALL Muslims I'd love to hear it .
I still don't think punching people is the answer , no matter how tempting

I think Christianity is a violent and toxic credo too, but I recognise that post-enlightenment secular principles have tempered Christianity, Christian authorities, and Christians themselves. I cant see the majority of Western Muslims, who are reaping the benefits of secularism, opting to invoke Sharia and in so doing opting for their own oppression, simply because they bear the stain of Islam, any more than I can see the majority of Western Christian opting for evangelical fundamentalism. What I can see though are lots of people invested in promoting religious division, which isn't good and can only be countered by securing and promoting secular principles rather than diluting them. Its not Muslims we need to focus on, or far-right or far-left extremists, it's ideologues if every stripe - those who stake a claim to normativity regardless of the circumstances or the facts or the consequences of their beliefs, and in that regard I'm not just talking about religious ideologues but also social, economic and military ideologues not associated with a particular religion.

[NineBerry]

[Svartalf]

Wer ist das?

[laklak]

Think it's this guy without the stash.

[tattuchu]

Well, hell, if you can't punch Nazis then who can you punch?

[Brian Peacock]

Kittens and cows?

[tattuchu]

Kittens and cows?

Well, obviously, but besides those

[DaveDodo007]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. No.

OK, fair enough.

[DaveDodo007]

I never said they were the same thing, hence my use of both terms.

What is that you disagree with me on?

What is your position on the ethics of punching Nazis?

I've literally told you the answer to that probably at least 5 times over the past year or so. You like to accuse others of being disingenuous. FFS, take a look in the mirror.

Punching nazis is ethically fucking excellent.

Not that I agree with your morally reprehensible opinion and I would agree that when you are at war with a country who are Nazis then you are allowed to punch them. As the last Nazis were recruited in 1945 and anybody from that timeline was a indoctrinated child do you still hold this view?

There's plenty of people still around who follow Nazi ideology (ever heard of neo-nazis?). I'm all for punching those people.

Violence isn't a one way street, when it becomes acceptable then everyone gets to play. Good luck trying to out fight the fascists and enjoy your free helicopter ride with superb ocean views because it will be the last thing you will see.

[pErvinalia]

The fascists and the conservative state are already violent. We literally have nothing to lose by punching these cunts.

[DaveDodo007]

It's all one way traffic with you 42 - it's got to be the failing of The Leftists or nothing at all. Conservative and right-leaning governments are in power in most democratic nations, yet all you seem interested in is the presumed threat of the The Leftist. As I was trying to point out, there are extremists on both ends of th bell curve, so why are you so preoccupied with the extremists on one side to the obvious exclusion of extremists on the other - indeed, why do you seemingly keep raising the spectre of The Leftists to avoid talking about the failings and politics of The Rightists like Milo and Bannon?

It is you that is out of touch with the current zeitgeist (re: Conservative and right-leaning governments are in power in most democratic nations) as technically Merkel is the leader of a conservative, Christian government. Though she is a lefty/liberal cunt aka cuckservative in our eyes, she is just a kraut trying to destroy Europe for the third time in a century. The old conservatives can do one as far as I'm concerned as they are no different from the lefty/liberals for being shills for globalism, corporalists, elitist and open borders. They are just the same and it is a pity there isn't a hell for them to go to.

[DaveDodo007]

The fascists and the conservative state are already violent. We literally have nothing to lose by punching these cunts.

Interesting claim, have you any evidence to back this up?

[Brian Peacock]

It's all one way traffic with you 42 - it's got to be the failing of The Leftists or nothing at all. Conservative and right-leaning governments are in power in most democratic nations, yet all you seem interested in is the presumed threat of the The Leftist. As I was trying to point out, there are extremists on both ends of th bell curve, so why are you so preoccupied with the extremists on one side to the obvious exclusion of extremists on the other - indeed, why do you seemingly keep raising the spectre of The Leftists to avoid talking about the failings and politics of The Rightists like Milo and Bannon?

It is you that is out of touch with the current zeitgeist (re: Conservative and right-leaning governments are in power in most democratic nations) as technically Merkel is the leader of a conservative, Christian government. Though she is a lefty/liberal cunt aka cuckservative in our eyes, she is just a kraut trying to destroy Europe for the third time in a century. The old conservatives can do one as far as I'm concerned as they are no different from the lefty/liberals for being shills for globalism, corporalists, elitist and open borders. They are just the same and it is a pity there isn't a hell for them to go to.

I don't give a fig abut the zeitgeist - the zeitgeist is a nebulous distraction that changes with the season. What I'm interested is a well-founded political argument. Got any?