Is the Spanish language offensive to trans people?

[BarnettNewman]

The point I'm making is that the "gender bias" is purely mathematical, and nothing to do with sexism. Google doesn't think that women can't be doctors, or that men can't be nurses.

Not directly or explicitly, sure, and the reason, as you said, is a statistical algorithm.

However, the effect on human readers is to confirm and maintain the bias; children reading that will unconsciously absorb the bias, without taking on board the fact that we know that men can be nurses and women can be doctors.

It's quite the assertion on SD's part. Take out the retired doctor category (65+) and in most provinces here the male/female ratio is pretty much 50/50. Also look at the under 35 and 35-44. It's 60/40 in favour of females in some cases.

https://www.cma.ca/Assets/assets-librar ... ex-prv.pdf

[Brian Peacock]

That's correct. And English should get rid of the gendered pronouns as well and introduce a neutral one.

Thee's right.

We have lots of gender neutral pronouns we can use instead, darling.

[Hermit]

And English should get rid of the gendered pronouns as well and introduce a neutral one.

Jawohl, der die das stimmt.

[JimC]

The point I'm making is that the "gender bias" is purely mathematical, and nothing to do with sexism. Google doesn't think that women can't be doctors, or that men can't be nurses.

Not directly or explicitly, sure, and the reason, as you said, is a statistical algorithm.

However, the effect on human readers is to confirm and maintain the bias; children reading that will unconsciously absorb the bias, without taking on board the fact that we know that men can be nurses and women can be doctors.

It's quite the assertion on SD's part. Take out the retired doctor category (65+) and in most provinces here the male/female ratio is pretty much 50/50. Also look at the under 35 and 35-44. It's 60/40 in favour of females in some cases.

https://www.cma.ca/Assets/assets-librar ... ex-prv.pdf

I'm sure you're right about doctors - I have noticed many more female ones in recent years. However, nurses are still mainly female, although there has been a slow increase in male nurses...

[pErvinalia]

So, did we settle on the Spanish language yet? Is it high time they got rid of all their "la" this and "el" that. Instead of la muchacha and el muchacho they need to have lx muchachx or something. And, don't get me started on senor and senorita and senora. it's time for the Spanish speakers to start dealing with zhenor and zhenorita and zhenora and a bunch of other gender pronouns. And el and ella -- time for zhel and zhella and xel and xella.

Anything less is a denial of peoples basic humanity.

Numbers are patriarchal and misogynist. From now on in you shall be known as Xerty Twox.

[Strontium Dog]

The point I'm making is that the "gender bias" is purely mathematical, and nothing to do with sexism. Google doesn't think that women can't be doctors, or that men can't be nurses.

Not directly or explicitly, sure, and the reason, as you said, is a statistical algorithm.

However, the effect on human readers is to confirm and maintain the bias; children reading that will unconsciously absorb the bias, without taking on board the fact that we know that men can be nurses and women can be doctors.

It's quite the assertion on SD's part. Take out the retired doctor category (65+) and in most provinces here the male/female ratio is pretty much 50/50. Also look at the under 35 and 35-44. It's 60/40 in favour of females in some cases.

https://www.cma.ca/Assets/assets-librar ... ex-prv.pdf

Well that's great for your tiny corner of the planet, but worldwide I think you'll find it isn't even close.

[pErvinalia]

They wear the stethoscopes and wield the scalpels in increasing numbers: women make up 54 percent of physicians below the age of 35 in Britain, 58 percent in France and almost 64 percent in Spain, according to the latest figures from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, which tracks the trend in more than 30 countries.
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Over the past three decades, the proportion of women in medical schools has risen in Europe, the United States, Canada, Australia and South Africa. Most medical schools in England have more female students than male, with almost 56 percent, or 5,170, in the entering classes last year. At the current rate, the Royal College of Physicians expects women to make up the majority of all doctors in Britain by 2017.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/08/world ... ocs08.html

[Brian Peacock]

Nice to see the ladies getting out of the house and making themselves useful, isn't it?

[pErvinalia]

It's the cuckisisation of medicine. Particularly with male nurses. What kind of poofta becomes a male nurse?!

[Scott1328]

¿Qién es este pendejo Cuarenta y Dos? Yo pienso que él tenga un pene tan pequeño.

[pErvinalia]

Si.

[JimC]

Are you both from Barcelona?

[pErvinalia]

Barthelona? Yeth.

[Svartalf]

Are you both from Barcelona?

Nope, they were talking Castillan, not Catalan.

[Forty Two]

¿Qién es este pendejo Cuarenta y Dos? Yo pienso que él tenga un pene tan pequeño.

Pero me identifico como alguien con un pene gigante. Así pues, las mujeres tienen que actuar impresionado o negarme mi humanidad básica.