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Re: The Reign of Trump

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:20 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Remember John Selwyn Gummer during the BSE crisis? He repeatedly returned to the point that no scientist had identified a link between eating mad-cows and CJD - simply because no science had been done on that possible route of contagion in humans at the time. Now, if the government doesn't commission any research then I guess they can say that no scientists disagree with them, and therefore they can use the cloak of the spectre of science, like Gummer did, to assert that there's nothing to worry about.

Also, it doesn't matter if you think humans are responsible for global warming or not (although the science is incontrovertible), the climate is changing, the sea is rising, and seasonal weather patterns are shifting in all hemispheres. One would imagine that planning and mitigation would be on the agenda regardless of whether blame can be or is attached to humans, or not. But again, if there's nobody in government to say these things then perhaps it can be sidelined or ignored completely. The King must not be told he's stark, bollock nakkid.

Old rich guys with a thirst for power but who will, to a man, be dead in 20 years are not the right people to be making these kinds of decisions for their grandchildren's future.
The grandchildren will be fine, what's climate change when you have 37 pronouns, intersectionality, feminism, SJWism, BLM, otherkin and headmates. I mean all those gender studies, liberal arts, sociology and communication degrees will sure come in useful. :smoke:
Thanks for that. That really clears things up. :tea:
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Re: The Reign of Trump

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:23 am

I'm thinking about writing a dave script generator program. It will just randomly combine the usual fragments into new and novel ways that not even Dave could come up with even after 10 cooking sherries.
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Re: The Reign of Trump

Post by JimC » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:47 am

pErvin wrote:I'm thinking about writing a dave script generator program. It will just randomly combine the usual fragments into new and novel ways that not even Dave could come up with even after 10 cooking sherries.
Start with a Dodo vocabulary. Cucks is to be used every second sentence... :tea:
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Re: The Reign of Trump

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:55 am

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Brian Peacock wrote:What I'm saying is that you can be an agnostic on the matter of human-caused global warming and you still have to do something about it today in order to limit its effects tomorrow.
I don't think so. If you're "agnostic" on the matter, and you're convinced that efforts to limit the effects of a phenomenon whose existence you doubt or deny are in reality subversive attempts at massive wealth redistribution, you will actively oppose those efforts. As well, if you're an "agnostic" and your primary goal is and always has been enriching yourself, you may consider those efforts to be nothing but obstructive. That's not even taking into account those whose ideology requires them to oppose anything that "libtards" support.
I mean agnostic in the sense of not knowing. You don't have to know what the cause is to treat symptoms which are self-evident. Nonetheless, this is not my main point. My main point is that action has to be taken now because even if climate catastrophe has a low probability in actuality (and I'm not saying that it does, just 'if') the potential effects are so calamitous that crossing our collective political and economic fingers, and telling ourselves everything will be OK, is indistinguishable from a wilful betrayal of our children and grandchildren.
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Re: The Reign of Trump

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:23 am

The problem is that most AGW denialists also deny that the climate is warming. They don't see a problem at all that needs fixing.
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Re: The Reign of Trump

Post by Hermit » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:25 am

JimC wrote:
pErvin wrote:I'm thinking about writing a dave script generator program. It will just randomly combine the usual fragments into new and novel ways that not even Dave could come up with even after 10 cooking sherries.
Start with a Dodo vocabulary. Cucks is to be used every second sentence... :tea:
And don't forget "Pizzagate", though I suspect that our cuck holder will use that word sparingly from now on for some reason. "MSM" remains a synonym for "lies" or "liar", though. Cuck holders are slow learners.
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Re: The Reign of Trump

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:26 am

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Re: The Reign of Trump

Post by Animavore » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:06 pm

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Re: The Reign of Trump

Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:22 pm

When I encounter the subject I just bring up math. Most of us ordinary people suck at math, and we'd never consider arguing with a mathematician about maths. 'So, knowing you barely passed college algebra, why are you so confident when you talk about climate change? Where do these feelings come from? You certainly didn't figure anything out, and then get mad about it.'

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I think it's the smart manipulators -on either side of issues- who abstract away all of the detail which creates the illusion for people that they're in command of very complex systems e.g. Limbaugh on government, when in reality they're driving blind, or being prepared to be taken wherever the manipulators are going.
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Re: The Reign of Trump

Post by Svartalf » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:55 pm

Rick Perry as sec energy, that makes it official, Frump is an evil clown.
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Re: The Reign of Trump

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:19 pm

I've read that the GSA has provided offices in Washington DC intended for the use of Trump's transition team. Instead, the operation is centered at Trump Tower in New York City. The city is providing security for Trump Tower, which is costing it millions of dollars. In addition, local businesses have been losing business during a time of year that usually provides a big part of their sales revenue. Catherine Rampell has come up with an interesting way to deal with this: "New York should seize Trump Tower" :lol:
Trump loves eminent domain, especially this ruling. He thinks it’s wonderful. And there’s no question why: Throughout his career, Trump has lobbied governments to seize properties from those who refuse to sell when he wants to build amusement parks, golf courses, office buildings and parking lots on their land. He believes expansive use of eminent domain is necessary to promote economic growth and “beautification,” and that it’s even a good deal for property owners who don’t want to sell.

“When eminent domain is used on somebody’s property, that person gets a fortune,” he has declared.

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Re: The Reign of Trump

Post by Animavore » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:30 pm

And this is why Trump and the conspiracy theories his ilk perpetuate are a bad thing.
Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones is scrubbing online content pushing the false and dangerous conspiracy theory that Hillary Clinton’s campaign trafficked children through a D.C. pizzeria. A man who recently entered the pizzeria with a rifle and fired shots reportedly shared a piece of Jones’ content before the shooting; the video he shared is still on the website.

Jones is a radio host who has claimed that the government perpetrated the 9/11 attacks and the tragedies at Columbine, Oklahoma City, Sandy Hook, and the Boston Marathon. Jones has also repeatedly accused the Clintons of murder. He has been elevated from the fringes to the mainstream by President-elect Donald Trump, who appeared on his show and praised his “amazing” reputation. Trump adviser Roger Stone is also a regular Jones guest and contributor.

Jones and his Infowars website have promoted the false conspiracy theory dubbed "pizzagate," which alleges that top Clinton associates such as campaign manager John Podesta are trafficking children through the Comet Ping Pong restaurant.

The false claims took a dangerous turn when Edgar Maddison Welch fired an assault rifle inside the pizzeria because he was trying to “self-investigate” the conspiracy theory. FBI special agent Justin Holgate stated in a criminal complaint that Welch said he sent a video on the night of December 1 with the message “Watch PIZZAGATE: The Bigger Picture on YouTube” to a friend before the shooting:
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Re: The Reign of Trump

Post by tattuchu » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:14 pm

Animavore wrote:Image
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People think "queue" is just "q" followed by 4 silent letters.

But those letters are not silent.

They're just waiting their turn.

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Re: The Reign of Trump

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:36 pm

Mr Trump said during the campaign that he knew “more than the generals” about the threat from Islamic State. But the generals will occupy key roles in his administration to such a degree that the head of Human Rights Watch has said there will be a whiff of “military junta” about it. With James Mattis at defence, the temperamental Islamophobe Michael Flynn as national security adviser, John Kelly in charge of the enormous homeland security bureaucracy and Mike Pompeo as the new CIA director, military men have seized some key jobs. Whether this heralds the politicisation of the military or the militarisation of politics will be a key question.

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Re: The Reign of Trump

Post by Animavore » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:42 pm

So first of all Trump can hardly find a celeb or two to play at his inauguration. Now he can't even find a high school marching band in the DC area.

http://addictinginfo.org/2016/12/14/not ... uguration/

Good to see people are already opposing this useless piece of shit. Long may it continue for the next four years.
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