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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:34 am

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Tero wrote:Nasty woman loses election by winning more than 2 million votes over Trump.
Dead people's, illegal alien's and multiple votes by one person don't count.
Have you got a source for that? I can't find anything on the web to suggest that any dead person or non-US resident voted in the election, and the only report I can find about multiple voting concerns a single Trump voter who was worried that her vote wouldn't be counted.
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:08 am

Jill Stein campaign to recount key states in US election reaches $2.5m target
Green Party acts after computer scientists raise concerns over electronic voting

A campaign launched by the Green Party candidate Jill Stein to recount key states in the US election has reached its initial funding target of $2.5 million in just a matter of hours.

The money will allow Ms Stein to review the results in Wisconsin, Michigin and Pennsylvania, where concerns have been raised over irregularities with electronic voting results.

Each of the states voted narrowly in favour of Donald Trump (though the final Michigin count is still to be confirmed), and carry enough electoral college votes between them to change the result of the election if all were redeclared for Hillary Clinton.

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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:14 am

Seth wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Seth wrote:
Tero wrote:Nasty woman loses election by winning more than 2 million votes over Trump.
Dead people's, illegal alien's and multiple votes by one person don't count.
Have you got a source for that? I can't find anything on the web to suggest that any dead person or non-US resident voted in the election,
Of course you can't because the MSM consistently suppresses and refuses to report on the many instances where it happens...and then there's the electronic voting machines that switched Trump votes to Hillary, hoping the voters wouldn't notice.
and the only report I can find about multiple voting concerns a single Trump voter who was worried that her vote wouldn't be counted.
Dig deeper.

Why the FUCK do you think Obama and the leftists opened the southern border and invited millions of illegals into the US and then filed lawsuits to block every law requiring that voters show ID proving they are legal citizens in order to register or vote? Do you think this was coincidence? Don't be opaque.
So your assertions Trump evidence I guess - and in true paranoid conspiracy theory style the very absence of support is used to qualify the assertion as fact. Declaring knowledge in this manner is self-serving and a fundamentally religious trait.
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Svartalf » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:23 am

Evidence that Frump won the elections is trumped up.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:44 am

I hope he is impeached as that would be real peachy. :funny:
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Tero » Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:40 pm

why no photo ID? Many people living in the slums do not have any reason to have a photo ID for every day use. Some of them do not have a permanent address. I think a lot of young black males do not. some do not have the name they were born with after a bunch of daddies that mom lived with. These:
Getting a photo ID so you can vote is easy. Unless you’re poor, black, Latino or elderly.
For Settles to get one of those, his name has to match his birth certificate — and it doesn’t. In 1964, when he was 14, his mother married and changed his last name. After Texas passed a new voter-ID law, officials told Settles he had to show them his name-change certificate from 1964 to qualify for a new identification card to vote.

So with the help of several lawyers, Settles tried to find it, searching records in courthouses in the D.C. area, where he grew up. But they could not find it. To obtain a new document changing his name to the one he has used for 51 years, Settles has to go to court, a process that would cost him more than $250 — more than he is willing to pay.

“It has been a bureaucratic nightmare,” said Settles, 65, a retired engineer. “The intent of this law is to suppress the vote. I feel like I am not wanted in this state.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:39 pm

Just one of the many tricks. Such a beautiful democratic system. One to be proud off. FFS!
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Re: The Hillary-thread

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Tero wrote:why no photo ID? Many people living in the slums do not have any reason to have a photo ID for every day use. Some of them do not have a permanent address. I think a lot of young black males do not. some do not have the name they were born with after a bunch of daddies that mom lived with. These:
Getting a photo ID so you can vote is easy. Unless you’re poor, black, Latino or elderly.
For Settles to get one of those, his name has to match his birth certificate — and it doesn’t. In 1964, when he was 14, his mother married and changed his last name. After Texas passed a new voter-ID law, officials told Settles he had to show them his name-change certificate from 1964 to qualify for a new identification card to vote.

So with the help of several lawyers, Settles tried to find it, searching records in courthouses in the D.C. area, where he grew up. But they could not find it. To obtain a new document changing his name to the one he has used for 51 years, Settles has to go to court, a process that would cost him more than $250 — more than he is willing to pay.

“It has been a bureaucratic nightmare,” said Settles, 65, a retired engineer. “The intent of this law is to suppress the vote. I feel like I am not wanted in this state.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
So, his vote isn't worth $250 to him. Why then should we give a fuck if he votes or not? He sat on his rights (to get ID) for too long and so he lost the right to vote because he didn't bother to keep his ID current. He had fifty-two fucking years to correct the problem and chose not to. Sucks to be him I guess.

The intent of the law is to force people to prove they are legally entitled to vote. If you don't care enough about voting to do what is necessary to obtain proof that you are eligible to vote, then fuck you, you don't get to vote. That's just how it is.
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Seth » Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:49 pm

Tero wrote:why no photo ID? Many people living in the slums do not have any reason to have a photo ID for every day use.
You need a fucking ID card to buy your beer for fuck's sake. You have to register for the draft at 18, and to do that you have to have ID. You need ID to get a driver's license. The idea that slum dwellers "do not have any reason to have a photo ID" is ludicrous horseshit. If they don't have ID it's because they don't WANT ID, and that's probably because they are criminals and want to be able to change identity to try to fuck with the police when they get arrested.
Some of them do not have a permanent address. I think a lot of young black males do not.
You don't have to have to have a permanent address to get an ID. You don't have to have ANY permanent address, and you can pick "park bench number three in Washington Park this week" as your address and change it as often as you want, because federal law allows precisely that sort of thing exactly so that the homeless are not disenfranchised merely because they are homeless. But you DO have to declare your place of residence within a certain time period preceding an election WHEN YOU VOTE so that it can be recorded and checked that you're voting in the right state and precinct so that you don't get to vote more than once. That's just how it works. You want to vote, you have to submit identification and location information to prevent fraud. You don't like it, then don't vote.
some do not have the name they were born with after a bunch of daddies that mom lived with.
Bullshit. Their name is the one they were born with unless and until it's changed by a judge in a court. You can call yourself whatever you want, but if you choose to change your name without going through the legal name-change process you are prohibited from voting. That's just how it is. If those rules weren't in place you could go vote somewhere under one name, walk out the door to the next precinct and choose a new name and vote there and so on and so forth...which is EXACTLY what the Democrats wanted and have been trying to do for decades with their interference with voter ID laws.

There is no credible argument to be made that anyone is involuntarily disenfranchised from voting because they cannot obtain ID. In ever case they have CHOSEN not to obtain proper ID, either through action or inaction, and I have absolutely no sympathy at all for them.

If you aren't willing to take the time and trouble to get an ID and register properly, what with all the many and varied help available to the aged and infirm to get them properly registered, including FREE ID cards issued by the states, then you don't get to vote, nor should you be allowed to do so. Freedom ain't free, you have to work for it, and getting a proper legal ID is hardly an impossible task for anyone who is a legal US citizen.
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by DRSB » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:58 am

"Michigan voting totals revised again, Hillary Clinton climbs to within 10,000 votes"
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:08 pm

Seth wrote:
Tero wrote:why no photo ID? Many people living in the slums do not have any reason to have a photo ID for every day use. Some of them do not have a permanent address. I think a lot of young black males do not. some do not have the name they were born with after a bunch of daddies that mom lived with. These:
Getting a photo ID so you can vote is easy. Unless you’re poor, black, Latino or elderly.
For Settles to get one of those, his name has to match his birth certificate — and it doesn’t. In 1964, when he was 14, his mother married and changed his last name. After Texas passed a new voter-ID law, officials told Settles he had to show them his name-change certificate from 1964 to qualify for a new identification card to vote.

So with the help of several lawyers, Settles tried to find it, searching records in courthouses in the D.C. area, where he grew up. But they could not find it. To obtain a new document changing his name to the one he has used for 51 years, Settles has to go to court, a process that would cost him more than $250 — more than he is willing to pay.

“It has been a bureaucratic nightmare,” said Settles, 65, a retired engineer. “The intent of this law is to suppress the vote. I feel like I am not wanted in this state.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
So, his vote isn't worth $250 to him. Why then should we give a fuck if he votes or not? He sat on his rights (to get ID) for too long and so he lost the right to vote because he didn't bother to keep his ID current. He had fifty-two fucking years to correct the problem and chose not to. Sucks to be him I guess.

The intent of the law is to force people to prove they are legally entitled to vote. If you don't care enough about voting to do what is necessary to obtain proof that you are eligible to vote, then fuck you, you don't get to vote. That's just how it is.
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Svartalf » Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:17 pm

Well, in France we ARE supposed ot have our papers with us at all times and it's no sweat.
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:47 pm

Svartalf wrote:Well, in France we ARE supposed ot have our papers with us at all times and it's no sweat.
We have the typical Dutch compromise; there are no compulsory laws regarding ID cards but you must be able to identify yourself when asked by the authorities. So you either carry your driving licence or get an ID card.
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