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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:57 am

Just like Brexit the idiot non-thinkers were conned. They believe lies. He is going to screw them big way. If he manages 'to get jobs back' how high are the wages going to be? They will be living in a place worse than a third world country. In a very 'managed' society.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Forty Two » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:43 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:Just like Brexit the idiot non-thinkers were conned. They believe lies. He is going to screw them big way. If he manages 'to get jobs back' how high are the wages going to be? They will be living in a place worse than a third world country. In a very 'managed' society.
Such condescending nonsense, and typical from leftists. Your opponent doesn't have legitimate concerns, and a different point of view. Your opponents are idiots and dupes. They believe lies, while you are smart and know the truth.

If he manages to get jobs back, wouldn't that be better than not getting jobs back? Unemployment or a low wage? Which is better? However, he's not talking about low wage jobs. He's talking about saving American industry, which is a matter of national security. If too much of your heavy industry and manufacturing is overseas, then that's a big problem. Since you claim to be on the side of the thinkers who aren't conned, you should be able to puzzle that out. Why, do you think, it's a big deal for a leading nation to not have a sufficient industrial and manufacturing base?
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:45 pm

What a load of bollocks.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Forty Two » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:12 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:What a load of bollocks.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Forty Two » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:18 pm

Donald Trump receiving death threats on the Twitter - http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/09/twitt ... assinated/

Are death threats on Twitter a big deal? I don't remember. I think they were at one time, but probably not anymore. So hard to keep up.

The "rhetoric" and incitements to violence are all over the place - http://www.mediaite.com/tv/people-have- ... ce-on-cnn/

This kind of talk should be illegal, right? Someone was talking about that. I mean, hate speech, inciting violence. This kind of thing is not tolerated in a civilized society, is it? Or, maybe it is. Hard to keep up on this.

Voter intimidation against Trump voters -- http://www.infowars.com/shock-video-bla ... ump-voter/ Wait, voter intimidation isn't when folks supporting another candidate beat up opposition voters. No. Voter intimidation is when you say out loud that people should only vote where they reside, and should have identification with them to make sure they are casting only their own vote. That's voter intimidation. Beating up a Trump supporter is understandable protest against someone who supports a terrible candidate.

This is all normal -- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... untry.html Just a groundswell of public opposition spontaneously erupting, like in Benghazi. These are not coordinated events created by douchebags like Moveon.org and BLM. No. This is the people crying out for justice.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Animavore » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:21 pm

Did you really just post something from Info Wars?
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:23 pm

Infowars and Daily Mail. Impressive reading list.

Death threats are illegal I would have thought. No need to invoke a silly parody of hate speach.

Trump shouldn't be surprised, though. He did call for the assassination of Clinton. It's hard to feel sorry for such a hate monger as Trump.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Forty Two » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:29 pm

Animavore wrote:Did you really just post something from Info Wars?
Oh, right, the event reported didn't happen. Got it.

This is an example of "why" what happened happened. The media like CNN is not going to report on Trump supporters getting the shit beaten out of them while the attackers yell 'you voted for Trump, you gonna pay for that shit!" -- no, that's not the voter suppression anyone is interested in.

Do you think the video would make the New York Times and CNN if the attackers were going after a Hillary supporter? Of course it would. It doesn't make the news now, because the news is in the tank for Hillary, and they are just as pissed off as other Hillary supporters that they lost, so they are not going to report this stuff.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Animavore » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:31 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Animavore wrote:Did you really just post something from Info Wars?
Oh, right, the event reported didn't happen. Got it.

This is an example of "why" what happened happened. The media like CNN is not going to report on Trump supporters getting the shit beaten out of them while the attackers yell 'you voted for Trump, you gonna pay for that shit!" -- no, that's not the voter suppression anyone is interested in.

Do you think the video would make the New York Times and CNN if the attackers were going after a Hillary supporter? Of course it would. It doesn't make the news now, because the news is in the tank for Hillary, and they are just as pissed off as other Hillary supporters that they lost, so they are not going to report this stuff.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Forty Two » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:36 pm

Sure. It has nothing to do with the source. The same video is on Youtube. It happened. it's not being reported on any news source.

you know why it's not reported on another news source, right?

You think if it was two Trump supporters beating the shit out of Hillary voter, and saying "you voted Hillary, you gonna pay for that shit" - you think that would have to be found on InfoWars? you thin that wouldn't be on CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC and MSNBC right now as an example of violent voter intimidation?

Come on. Wake the fuck up.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by tattuchu » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:15 pm

Confirmation that Russia was in contact with Trump during the campaign:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... ce6fc0e5f4
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Forty Two » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:24 pm

tattuchu wrote:Confirmation that Russia was in contact with Trump during the campaign:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... ce6fc0e5f4
Not with Trump. The Russian quoted talks of people in Trump's "entourage." And, he has noted that these are high-profile people that have been in the limelight for many years who have had dealings in Russia over the years, and that has continued.

So, we don't know who talked to whom, and when, and about what. Is there any detail on that?
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Animavore » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:59 pm

Forty Two wrote:Sure. It has nothing to do with the source. The same video is on Youtube. It happened. it's not being reported on any news source.

you know why it's not reported on another news source, right?

You think if it was two Trump supporters beating the shit out of Hillary voter, and saying "you voted Hillary, you gonna pay for that shit" - you think that would have to be found on InfoWars? you thin that wouldn't be on CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC and MSNBC right now as an example of violent voter intimidation?

Come on. Wake the fuck up.
Seriously, though?

Also, I like the Alex Jones-ism in the last line. Nice touch.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Animavore » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:02 pm

I've realised that you're missing my point. I'm not trying to say the source is invalid because per se because it's on Info Wars. It was a general, "Are you serious?"
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by tattuchu » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:06 pm

Forty Two wrote:
tattuchu wrote:Confirmation that Russia was in contact with Trump during the campaign:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... ce6fc0e5f4
Not with Trump. The Russian quoted talks of people in Trump's "entourage." And, he has noted that these are high-profile people that have been in the limelight for many years who have had dealings in Russia over the years, and that has continued.

So, we don't know who talked to whom, and when, and about what. Is there any detail on that?
Nope, just what was in the article, which wasn't much. Though it seems unlikely that the Russians would be in contact with Trump's people without being in contact with the orange man himself.
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