The Donald-thread

[rainbow]

[DRSB]

[tattuchu]

[tattuchu]

[cronus]

http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-e ... 6/1.749153

Good article, a bit serious for the tone right now but if he wins 'serious' is gonna win this threads heart.

[Brian Peacock]

Oblivious to paradox, irony, history or facts, Trumpism projects a distorted vision of American greatness. The Trump doctrine decrees that a nation built by immigrants, that became the most powerful on Earth is so scared of migrant and refugee hordes that it must build a 2,000-mile wall with Mexico. Trumpism holds that a great nation that incorporated religious tolerance into its groundbreaking constitution and bill of rights must now shatter its own principles and deliberately discriminate against Muslims to keep itself safe.

As general concepts, Trumpism makes an enemy of the “other”, equates nationality with homogeneity, calls honest critics liars and seeks to threaten, jail or harm opponents. It says individualism outweighs state authority, as in the unfettered right to bear firearms, but not, perversely, in the case of a woman’s right to choose abortion. Trumpism distrusts and fears foreigners. It believes free trade, international treaties and economic globalisation in general are loaded dice intended to rip off Americans. Paranoid Trumpism holds that long-term allies such as Germany and Japan get a free security ride at America’s expense.

Trumpism admires the domestic authoritarianism and international bullying of dictatorships in Russia and China. Vladimir Putin is a strong leader standing up for his people, national beliefs and way of life. Any inconvenient truth that contradicts this or other Trumpist narratives is inherently mendacious, part of a web of lies and falsehoods spun by the treacherous mass media conspiring with the establishment to dupe honest citizens. And don’t forget: Trumpism cannot be fairly defeated. If it loses, it was cheated for sure.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... s-election

[Tero]

Trump meme of the day
http://img.ifcdn.com/images/35332100b93 ... 1251_1.jpg

[Tero]

OK two, since Trump is here only in spirit

[Forty Two]

LOL - calling something the "lesser" of two evils is not an "equivalency." It's the exact opposite of that.

[pErvinalia]

No it's not. It's asserting that both are evil.

[Forty Two]

No it's not. It's asserting that both are evil.

..and that one is "lesser" than the other. That's not an equivalency. It's like calling someone who saves 10 people from a burning building a hero, but also calling someone who saved someone's goldfish from a fire also a hero, albeit a lesser one.

Suggesting that Hillary Clinton is not "evil" in her way is just ignoring the facts. She's a lying piece of shit, and a corrupt schemer, at best. If that's "evil" in a person's book, so be it...

[pErvinalia]

This is going to one of those conversations, isn't it? Evil is the equivalency. That doesn't mean that they are exactly the same. This is basic stuff. Aren't there some feminists you need to be posting about?

[Forty Two]

This is going to one of those conversations, isn't it? Evil is the equivalency. That doesn't mean that they are exactly the same. This is basic stuff. Aren't there some feminists you need to be posting about?

Lesser is the modifier. LESSER of two evils. That's not equivalent. Hitler was really really evil. A guy who robs a liquor store for a few bucks of drug money is a lesser evil. They aren't equivalent. Calling the latter the lesser of two evils is not an equivalency.

It is basic stuff. But, you make the mistake a lot of people make these days - not paying attention.

Four and five are both numbers, but four is the lesser of two numbers. Calling them both numbers is not an equivalency.

And, it is one of those conversations - one where you're just being trollish.

[pErvinalia]

Start posting about feminists again. Your massacring of the English language is tedious.

[rainbow]

Four and five are both numbers, but four is the lesser of two numbers. Calling them both numbers is not an equivalency.

Numberist!