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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by devogue » Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:00 am

How do Hilary's misdemeanours compare with David Petraeus, who seems to have paid a very high but justified price for his actions?

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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:01 am

Oh look, Ddd007 found a pretty picture to avoid addressing the issue. Are you as outraged with Mr Comey's actions as the notable former and present Attorney Generals?
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pErvin wrote:ad hominen fallacy.
Magic words totally destroyed my arguments, oh wait they didn't. Either come up with something of substance or butt out.
Actually, a pertinent observation totally undermined your opinion. If you consider the head of the FBI's actions to be legitimate here, does that legitimacy depend on his politics, your politics, or the actions themselves?
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:14 am

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Nobody is buying the sexism card anymore,
Got any evidence to back that up?
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:15 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:
pErvin wrote:ad hominen fallacy.
Magic words totally destroyed my arguments, oh wait they didn't. Either come up with something of substance or butt out.
Physician, heal thyself. Your reply to Brian didn't address anything the article said. You just committed a logical fallacy in an attempt to get out of dealing with the substance of the article.
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:19 am

pErvin wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Nobody is buying the sexism card anymore,
Got any evidence to back that up?
The Daily Telegraph (a non-cuckist media outlet) certainly thinks Mr Trump's misogynistic sexism is worthy of note.
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by DaveDodo007 » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:10 am

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:57 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
pErvin wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Nobody is buying the sexism card anymore,
Got any evidence to back that up?
The Daily Telegraph (a non-cuckist media outlet) certainly thinks Mr Trump's misogynistic sexism is worthy of note.
And what a list! The cunt is a mental case and he should be locked up for his and women's good.

Just the way he perceives women is totally sickening. I wonder when his sexual activities started?
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by Forty Two » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:30 am

pErvin wrote:I thought they were to do with the Weiner man.
They were on his computer, in a folder labeled "insurance."
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:36 am

That was to stop his wife looking at them.
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by Tero » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:50 am

Over 500 000 sex messages!

"Investigators found 650,000 emails on a laptop that they believe was used by former Rep. Anthony Weiner"

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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by Forty Two » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:07 pm

pErvin wrote:That was to stop his wife looking at them.
Because they were emails from and to his wife (which she said she had turned over to the FBI, and which it looks like she hadn't), and they appear to contain copies of emails to and from Clinton herself which appear to be emails which were deleted on Hillary's other devices and server and never turned over to the FBI. If that is true, if there are work related emails (copies) of emails from before her server was wiped and bleached, and before the hammers were taken to her cell phones, etc., then that could be an extremely serious matter.

I am not saying it "is" an extremely serious matter. But, if this were Trump or a Bush that engaged in the deleting, bleach-bitting, and hammering (physical destruction of devices) while under subpoena from the FBI, and they asked us to trust them that they made the unsupervised decision as to what emails were work related and needed to be turned over.... well...I think everyone knows what sort of trust would be placed in those folks. Right? I'm just applying the same standard that should be set for anyone in these circumstances.

And, it's not like Clinton has a track record for veracity. Almost everyone who deals with her has said she's not trustworthy, and she has enough objective falsehoods to justify not taking her explanations at face value.

Feel free to adopt the opposite view of it -- which you appear to be doing - that she is trustworthy, and that this has all been shown to be a big nothing, which is just part of a Republican right-wing conspiracy to falsely derail her campaign, and it goes to the highest level of the FBI, who opted not to prosecute her or even impanel a grand jury when he had the obvious chance. Now, Comey is subverting democracy, says the Clinton camp, and he's no longer appropriately doing his job.
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:14 pm

It was a joke, you clown.

Having said that, your explanation is a bit strange. Why were there emails between him and his wife in a folder marked "insurance" if the implication is that they contain damning evidence on the Clintons? Unless his wife was forwarding other emails to him with damning evidence.
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by Forty Two » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:18 pm

pErvin wrote:It was a joke, you clown.

Having said that, your explanation is a bit strange. Why were there emails between him and his wife in a folder marked "insurance" if the implication is that they contain damning evidence on the Clintons? Unless his wife was forwarding other emails to him with damning evidence.
I said they were emails from and to Huma, not exclusively from HIM to his wife or her to him. The suggestion from the FBI is that they contain copies of pre-bleach-bit emails involving Clinton. We don't know what they are, but there are a lot of emails there.

Huma also swore under oath that she had turned over all devices containing emails, so that threatens her grant of immunity.

Gotta love that she has immunity too....lol. Nothing to see here.
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:22 pm

How did they find out about these? Did the Weiner man spill the beans?
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by Tero » Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:37 pm

FBI now reading mails. Mails not to be released as 500 000 were signed with picture of Weiner's weiner:

The emails were discovered as part of an investigation into former New York congressman Anthony Weiner, who is suspected of having sexually charged communications with a 15-year-old girl. Investigators came across the emails while looking into devices used by Weiner. Weiner is married to — and currently separated from — longtime Clinton aide Huma Abedin, who had access to the same device or devices. The FBI obtained a warrant to begin a review of the emails, an official familiar with the matter said Sunday. The Wall Street Journalreported Sunday that there may be as many as 650,000 emails on the laptop, but it is unclear how many may be relevant to the Clinton email server investigation.

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