Election 2016 Thread

[Animavore]

Well whatever Hillary has doesn't seem to effect her mental faculties either. Unlike whatever Trump has. So I see no problem.

Except that she's had a concussion and a blood clot on her brain, and she has been referred to by her closest adviser - Huma Abedin -- as "often confused" in an email. She passes out and faints, and she freezes, and has gone into weird seizures while talking to people....

....surely there is at least something to inquire about there...?

Only for straw clutchers.

[L'Emmerdeur]

Well whatever Hillary has doesn't seem to effect her mental faculties either. Unlike whatever Trump has. So I see no problem.

Except that she's had a concussion and a blood clot on her brain, and she has been referred to by her closest adviser - Huma Abedin -- as "often confused" in an email. She passes out and faints, and she freezes, and has gone into weird seizures while talking to people....

....surely there is at least something to inquire about there...?

The "weird seizures" thing is unadulterated right-wing propaganda, as is the "freezes" baloney. As for "often confused," that email was sent shortly after the very incident you refer to in which she suffered a blow to the head. I don't know if you've ever had something like that happen to you, but it can take several days to recover, during which time people have known to be subject to confusion. There is no indication that Clinton is still suffering from that incident, but as Animavore says, the desperate (in this case, the gormless backers of Donald Trump) will clutch at any straw.

[laklak]

They're neck and neck in Florida (within the error percentage), and he's ahead in Ohio. CNN calls it a "narrow lead", 46 to 41. Lol. Imagine the headlines if it were the other way around - "Hillary trounces Trump in Ohio!!!"

Now, if Hillary falls down again, or Assange drops a big bag of shit on her, The Donald could very well win. In fact (I've offered this on RatSkep already), I'll run charter out of SW Florida for those wanting to leave the country in a, well, less obvious manner. Anyplace in the Caribbean, Central America, even Cuba for the right price. No immigration worries, and you can stash your money in the bilge.

Let me know, it's first come, first serve. Unless there's a bidding war, of course.

[Tero]

Another 9-11 might definitely get Trump elected. Anything less, no.

[Brian Peacock]

Wasn't one of your Presidents in a wheelchair?

Didn't one of your Presidents have Syphilis?
Didn't one of your Presidents have cancer?
Wasn't one of your Presidents totally incapacitated by a stroke?
Didn't one of your Presidents have a massive heart attack, and an emergency heart operation which was followed by a stroke?
Didn't one of your Presidents have Addison's?
Didn't one of your Presidents have Alzheimer's?

Didn't all of these Presidents hide the nature and extent of their health issues from the public?

[pErvinalia]

Last month, Donald Trump added Brooke Rollins and Kathleen Hartnett-White to his economic advisory council. Rollins is president and CEO of the Texas Public Policy Foundation (TPPF), while Hartnett-White has worked for the TPPF and the CO2 Coalition (formerly the George C. Marshall Institute), all of which are part of the “web of denial” receiving funding from the fossil fuel industry.

Hartnett-White told POLITICO in an interview that rather than listen to the conclusions of the world’s foremost climate science experts as summarized in the IPCC reports, she favors a commission that would develop an “alternative scientific methodology” and would include the voices of the less than 3% of climate scientists who reject the consensus on human-caused global warming.

She believes “the sun had a powerful role” in global warming. However, the sun has had an overall cooling effect on global temperatures over the past 60 years, as the IPCC reports have shown. She also loves fossil fuels and seems entirely opposed renewable energy and efforts to cut carbon pollution.

Hartnett-White co-authored a book with Trump’s senior economic adviser Stephen Moore, as part of a TPPF effort to “explain the moral case for fossil fuels” and undermine the Obama Administration’s Clean Power Plan. Moore has compared fracking to the cure for cancer, is a frequent Fox News and Wall Street Journal contributor, and was a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation – another fossil fuel-funded member of the web of denial. Moore has been encouraging Trump to push hard in favor of fossil fuels and against renewable energy. As a resultTrump’s “economic vision” includes goals like:

Cancel the Paris Climate Agreement (limit global warming to 2 degrees Celsius) and stop all payments of U.S. tax dollars to U.N. global warming programs.

cont. http://www.skepticalscience.com/trump-g ... dding.html

There shouldn't even be a debate. It is far more crazy to vote Trump/Republicans at this time. They're playing a dangerous game.

I know you keep going this line, but the reality is that a Clinton presidency will do fuck all about global warming. She's a corporate whore just like all the other neoliberals. She won't be biting the hands that feed her. If you really want action on climate change you should be backing Trump, as a Trump presidency will likely bring the whole US political system crashing down. At which point you can revise the whole system to make it actually effective in dealing with things like climate change.

[pErvinalia]

Well whatever Hillary has doesn't seem to effect her mental faculties either. Unlike whatever Trump has. So I see no problem.

Except that she's had a concussion and a blood clot on her brain, and she has been referred to by her closest adviser - Huma Abedin -- as "often confused" in an email. She passes out and faints, and she freezes, and has gone into weird seizures while talking to people....

....surely there is at least something to inquire about there...?

What's Trump's excuse for being almost permanently confused?

[pErvinalia]

Well whatever Hillary has doesn't seem to effect her mental faculties either. Unlike whatever Trump has. So I see no problem.

Except that she's had a concussion and a blood clot on her brain, and she has been referred to by her closest adviser - Huma Abedin -- as "often confused" in an email. She passes out and faints, and she freezes, and has gone into weird seizures while talking to people....

....surely there is at least something to inquire about there...?

The "weird seizures" thing is unadulterated right-wing propaganda, as is the "freezes" baloney. As for "often confused," that email was sent shortly after the very incident you refer to in which she suffered a blow to the head. I don't know if you've ever had something like that happen to you, but it can take several days to recover, during which time people have known to be subject to confusion. There is no indication that Clinton is still suffering from that incident, but as Animavore says, the desperate (in this case, the gormless backers of Donald Trump) will clutch at any straw.

Yep. It's embarrassing the nonsense these people are coming up with.

[pErvinalia]

They're neck and neck in Florida (within the error percentage), and he's ahead in Ohio. CNN calls it a "narrow lead", 46 to 41. Lol. Imagine the headlines if it were the other way around - "Hillary trounces Trump in Ohio!!!"

Now, if Hillary falls down again, or Assange drops a big bag of shit on her, The Donald could very well win. In fact (I've offered this on RatSkep already), I'll run charter out of SW Florida for those wanting to leave the country in a, well, less obvious manner. Anyplace in the Caribbean, Central America, even Cuba for the right price. No immigration worries, and you can stash your money in the bilge.

Let me know, it's first come, first serve. Unless there's a bidding war, of course.

I'm not Merkin, but book me on anyway. Sounds like a hoot!

[laklak]

We'll be pirates, do all sorts of piratey things. Make people walk the plank, torch native villages, rape and pillage. We can even teach parrots to say naughty words.

[Animavore]

Last month, Donald Trump added Brooke Rollins and Kathleen Hartnett-White to his economic advisory council. Rollins is president and CEO of the Texas Public Policy Foundation (TPPF), while Hartnett-White has worked for the TPPF and the CO2 Coalition (formerly the George C. Marshall Institute), all of which are part of the “web of denial” receiving funding from the fossil fuel industry.

Hartnett-White told POLITICO in an interview that rather than listen to the conclusions of the world’s foremost climate science experts as summarized in the IPCC reports, she favors a commission that would develop an “alternative scientific methodology” and would include the voices of the less than 3% of climate scientists who reject the consensus on human-caused global warming.

She believes “the sun had a powerful role” in global warming. However, the sun has had an overall cooling effect on global temperatures over the past 60 years, as the IPCC reports have shown. She also loves fossil fuels and seems entirely opposed renewable energy and efforts to cut carbon pollution.

Hartnett-White co-authored a book with Trump’s senior economic adviser Stephen Moore, as part of a TPPF effort to “explain the moral case for fossil fuels” and undermine the Obama Administration’s Clean Power Plan. Moore has compared fracking to the cure for cancer, is a frequent Fox News and Wall Street Journal contributor, and was a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation – another fossil fuel-funded member of the web of denial. Moore has been encouraging Trump to push hard in favor of fossil fuels and against renewable energy. As a resultTrump’s “economic vision” includes goals like:

Cancel the Paris Climate Agreement (limit global warming to 2 degrees Celsius) and stop all payments of U.S. tax dollars to U.N. global warming programs.

cont. http://www.skepticalscience.com/trump-g ... dding.html

There shouldn't even be a debate. It is far more crazy to vote Trump/Republicans at this time. They're playing a dangerous game.

I know you keep going this line, but the reality is that a Clinton presidency will do fuck all about global warming. She's a corporate whore just like all the other neoliberals. She won't be biting the hands that feed her. If you really want action on climate change you should be backing Trump, as a Trump presidency will likely bring the whole US political system crashing down. At which point you can revise the whole system to make it actually effective in dealing with things like climate change.

Hillary has actual policies to combat climate change. Ones she'll likely be held to. Especially with eh ever growing grassroots movement. She'll also be following on from the policies of Obama who has ratified the Paris Agreement. The only thing which can get in her way is Republicans trying to tie her hands, but once the Dems get their own person into the Supreme Court it won't be as much as an issue.
Voting for Trump is the worst thing that can be done right now. You can't guarantee the government will crash down, but you can guarantee they'll get their own crony into the supreme court and prolong progress on climate action.

Only a mad man (and they are largely men) would vote for Trump.

[Animavore]

Hillary asks Trump 20 Questions.

[cronus]

http://www.vox.com/2016/9/14/12920786/p ... mp-winning

A brutal new batch of polls for Clinton shows Trump winning in several swing states

Polls released over the past few days show Hillary Clinton losing to Donald Trump in several key swing states, in a trend that should set off alarm bells for Democrats.

These new polls, from several different outlets, show Trump ahead in some states where he hasn’t led any polls in months, and some are the best general election poll results Trump has ever gotten. Here’s the rundown:

In Ohio, two new polls from Bloomberg and CNN show Trump soaring to a 5-point lead — his biggest margin in the state in any poll tracked by HuffPost Pollster all campaign.
In Florida, a new CNN poll shows Trump winning by 3 points, his best performance since before the conventions.
In Nevada, Clinton is down by 2 points, according to Monmouth. She had led in post-convention polls.
And in Maine, which most expected to be a safe Democratic state and not a swing state, Clinton leads Trump by a mere 3 points, according to Colby College/Survey USA.
Now, you should generally look at the average of polls, rather than overinterpreting the significance of any one new poll, and head over to HuffPost Pollster or RealClearPolitics to do that. But sometimes, if the race is changing quickly and there haven’t been many polls lately, the averages can be slow to catch up (some state averages incorporate polls conducted back in July).

And when so many unusually pro-Trump poll results emerge at once, they seem unlikely to be the artifact of random noise. At the very least, they seem to indicate that the race is now much closer than it has been in months. At most, they could indicate that Trump has now pulled into a lead in states that could help make the difference.

(continued)

[pErvinalia]

Last month, Donald Trump added Brooke Rollins and Kathleen Hartnett-White to his economic advisory council. Rollins is president and CEO of the Texas Public Policy Foundation (TPPF), while Hartnett-White has worked for the TPPF and the CO2 Coalition (formerly the George C. Marshall Institute), all of which are part of the “web of denial” receiving funding from the fossil fuel industry.

Hartnett-White told POLITICO in an interview that rather than listen to the conclusions of the world’s foremost climate science experts as summarized in the IPCC reports, she favors a commission that would develop an “alternative scientific methodology” and would include the voices of the less than 3% of climate scientists who reject the consensus on human-caused global warming.

She believes “the sun had a powerful role” in global warming. However, the sun has had an overall cooling effect on global temperatures over the past 60 years, as the IPCC reports have shown. She also loves fossil fuels and seems entirely opposed renewable energy and efforts to cut carbon pollution.

Hartnett-White co-authored a book with Trump’s senior economic adviser Stephen Moore, as part of a TPPF effort to “explain the moral case for fossil fuels” and undermine the Obama Administration’s Clean Power Plan. Moore has compared fracking to the cure for cancer, is a frequent Fox News and Wall Street Journal contributor, and was a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation – another fossil fuel-funded member of the web of denial. Moore has been encouraging Trump to push hard in favor of fossil fuels and against renewable energy. As a resultTrump’s “economic vision” includes goals like:

Cancel the Paris Climate Agreement (limit global warming to 2 degrees Celsius) and stop all payments of U.S. tax dollars to U.N. global warming programs.

cont. http://www.skepticalscience.com/trump-g ... dding.html

There shouldn't even be a debate. It is far more crazy to vote Trump/Republicans at this time. They're playing a dangerous game.

I know you keep going this line, but the reality is that a Clinton presidency will do fuck all about global warming. She's a corporate whore just like all the other neoliberals. She won't be biting the hands that feed her. If you really want action on climate change you should be backing Trump, as a Trump presidency will likely bring the whole US political system crashing down. At which point you can revise the whole system to make it actually effective in dealing with things like climate change.

Hillary has actual policies to combat climate change. Ones she'll likely be held to. Especially with eh ever growing grassroots movement. She'll also be following on from the policies of Obama who has ratified the Paris Agreement. The only thing which can get in her way is Republicans trying to tie her hands, but once the Dems get their own person into the Supreme Court it won't be as much as an issue.
Voting for Trump is the worst thing that can be done right now. You can't guarantee the government will crash down, but you can guarantee they'll get their own crony into the supreme court and prolong progress on climate action.

Only a mad man (and they are largely men) would vote for Trump.

Let's check back in in 4 and 8 years time and you can wonder how emissions got worse and temperatures continue to soar. You won't find the solution to climate change in neoliberalism.

[Animavore]

Hilary releases medical information.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/page/med ... formation/

Meanwhile we wait on Trump to release his, along with his tax return.