The Hillary-thread

[cronus]

Confusing correlation with causation perhaps.

At least it isn't dementia we're dealing with here, unlike the other contestant.

[Tero]

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein ABC News/Wash Post Clinton 46, Trump 41, Johnson 9, Stein 2 Clinton +5

[Tero]

Some confused trumpite thought that the Hillary server contained all her work.

I explained it, he ignored: Just pointing out what's in the emails. Some people do not realize that nearly everything that is important in the job of either Hillary or Kerry will never be seen by anyone. The freedom of information requests will not get state documents on paper and all those meeting summaries (which are not transcripts) of daily staff meetings plus Obama meetings. Those may trickle out decades from now.

[Forty Two]

Hillary Clinton has pneumonia, says doctor, after exit from 9/11 ceremony

Hillary Clinton has pneumonia and has been advised to rest, the Democratic presidential nominee’s doctor said on Sunday, after Clinton abruptly left the 9/11 memorial ceremony in downtown Manhattan because, her campaign initially said, she “felt overheated”.

Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump mark 15th anniversary of 9/11 attacks at Ground Zero

“Secretary Clinton has been experiencing a cough related to allergies,” Dr Lisa R Bardack said in a statement. “On Friday, during follow up evaluation of her prolonged cough, she was diagnosed with pneumonia. She was put on antibiotics, and advised to rest and modify her schedule.

“While at this morning’s event, she became overheated and dehydrated. I have just examined her and she is now re-hydrated and recovering nicely.”

Clinton, who spoke at a fundraising event in New York on Friday night, recently sustained a coughing attack during a campaign event in Cleveland, fueling rightwing suspicion about her health and led to the creation of a hashtag, #HackingHillary. Her opponent, Donald Trump, used reaction on social media to push his case that the press is biased, tweeting: “Mainstream media never covered Hillary’s massive ‘hacking’ or coughing attack, yet it is #1 trending. What’s up?”

...more...

She was apparently diagnosed by this doctor on Friday with pneumonia and prescribed antibiotics, meaning it must have been bacterial. Bacterial pneumonias are generally contagious for a couple of days or so after antibiotics are started. That didn't stop her from hugging children over the weekend and glad-handing people.

They never disclosed the pneumonia, until she was caught falling down. So, when were they going to disclose it?

She falls down on Sunday morning, and is dragged away to her daughter's apartment. We are told she "overheated" (on a pleasant, late summer day in New York) and she left her daughter's apartment a short time later claiming to be feeling great!

Shortly thereafter, we're told she was diagnosed with pneumonia two days previously and is canceling her trip to the west coast.

LOL.

Bear in mind that this doctor said that SHE diagnosed Clinton with pneumonia on 9/9/16. That is not the same thing as saying that Clinton was FIRST DIAGNOSED with pneumonia on that day. it's possible she was diagnosed before that by another doctor. No evidence for it, but with the Clintons you really have to watch EXACTLY what they say, and keep open to all logical possibilities. Never assume.

Between the diagnosis and the near-collapse, Clinton appeared at two fundraisers, ran a national security meeting, hugged children and held a press conference. Is that what you do when you have bacterial pneumonia?

[pErvinalia]

Hillary Clinton has pneumonia, says doctor, after exit from 9/11 ceremony

Hillary Clinton has pneumonia and has been advised to rest, the Democratic presidential nominee’s doctor said on Sunday, after Clinton abruptly left the 9/11 memorial ceremony in downtown Manhattan because, her campaign initially said, she “felt overheated”.

Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump mark 15th anniversary of 9/11 attacks at Ground Zero

“Secretary Clinton has been experiencing a cough related to allergies,” Dr Lisa R Bardack said in a statement. “On Friday, during follow up evaluation of her prolonged cough, she was diagnosed with pneumonia. She was put on antibiotics, and advised to rest and modify her schedule.

“While at this morning’s event, she became overheated and dehydrated. I have just examined her and she is now re-hydrated and recovering nicely.”

Clinton, who spoke at a fundraising event in New York on Friday night, recently sustained a coughing attack during a campaign event in Cleveland, fueling rightwing suspicion about her health and led to the creation of a hashtag, #HackingHillary. Her opponent, Donald Trump, used reaction on social media to push his case that the press is biased, tweeting: “Mainstream media never covered Hillary’s massive ‘hacking’ or coughing attack, yet it is #1 trending. What’s up?”

...more...

Putin has had her poisoned.

[pErvinalia]

Hillary Clinton has pneumonia, says doctor, after exit from 9/11 ceremony

Hillary Clinton has pneumonia and has been advised to rest, the Democratic presidential nominee’s doctor said on Sunday, after Clinton abruptly left the 9/11 memorial ceremony in downtown Manhattan because, her campaign initially said, she “felt overheated”.

Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump mark 15th anniversary of 9/11 attacks at Ground Zero

“Secretary Clinton has been experiencing a cough related to allergies,” Dr Lisa R Bardack said in a statement. “On Friday, during follow up evaluation of her prolonged cough, she was diagnosed with pneumonia. She was put on antibiotics, and advised to rest and modify her schedule.

“While at this morning’s event, she became overheated and dehydrated. I have just examined her and she is now re-hydrated and recovering nicely.”

Clinton, who spoke at a fundraising event in New York on Friday night, recently sustained a coughing attack during a campaign event in Cleveland, fueling rightwing suspicion about her health and led to the creation of a hashtag, #HackingHillary. Her opponent, Donald Trump, used reaction on social media to push his case that the press is biased, tweeting: “Mainstream media never covered Hillary’s massive ‘hacking’ or coughing attack, yet it is #1 trending. What’s up?”

...more...

She was apparently diagnosed by this doctor on Friday with pneumonia and prescribed antibiotics, meaning it must have been bacterial. Bacterial pneumonias are generally contagious for a couple of days or so after antibiotics are started. That didn't stop her from hugging children over the weekend and glad-handing people.

They never disclosed the pneumonia, until she was caught falling down. So, when were they going to disclose it?

She falls down on Sunday morning, and is dragged away to her daughter's apartment. We are told she "overheated" (on a pleasant, late summer day in New York) and she left her daughter's apartment a short time later claiming to be feeling great!

Shortly thereafter, we're told she was diagnosed with pneumonia two days previously and is canceling her trip to the west coast.

LOL.

Bear in mind that this doctor said that SHE diagnosed Clinton with pneumonia on 9/9/16. That is not the same thing as saying that Clinton was FIRST DIAGNOSED with pneumonia on that day. it's possible she was diagnosed before that by another doctor. No evidence for it, but with the Clintons you really have to watch EXACTLY what they say, and keep open to all logical possibilities. Never assume.

Between the diagnosis and the near-collapse, Clinton appeared at two fundraisers, ran a national security meeting, hugged children and held a press conference. Is that what you do when you have bacterial pneumonia?

Is Pneumonia Contagious
Is pneumonia contagious? Pneumonia can be both contagious and non-contagious depending upon the exact cause of pneumonia. However, exposure to contagious pneumonia usually results in mild respiratory tract infection rather than pneumonia.
What is Pneumonia?

Pneumonia refers to inflammation of the lung tissue. This inflammation of lung tissue could be due to numerous causes, both infectious and non-infectious. Important infectious causes of pneumonia are viruses, bacteria and fungi. Pneumonia can also be caused by chemical injury (a non-infectious cause).
Is Pneumonia Contagious?

There is no simple answer to this question. Pneumonia can be both, contagious and non-contagious depending upon the cause of pneumonia. Moreover, the contagious causes of pneumonia are not contagious throughout the course of illness, but only during a certain period. A bacterial pneumonia is less likely to be contagious after taking antibiotics for few days. The pneumonias caused by bacteria and viruses are usually contagious, where as those caused by fungus and chemicals is not contagious.

Pneumonia can also be caused by chemical injury to the lung tissue. This may occur due to inhalation of toxic fumes or gases (for e.g. in a fire or industrial accident). Similar chemical pneumonitis might also occur because of aspiration of gastric contents (including gastric acid) in persons with altered level of consciousness (coma patient, excessively drunk persons etc.). These pneumonias are not contagious unless there is also a superimposed viral or bacterial infection after the initial chemical injury.
I have been exposed to "contagious pneumonia". Will I get it too?

Mere exposure to a person with "contagious" pneumonia is not enough to cause pneumonia. Although exposure is important, it is not the only factor determining the development of pneumonia. It is quite common that the exposed person may not develop pneumonia, or develop only a mild respiratory tract infection.

The immune status and lung condition (any preexisting lung disease) of the exposed person is particularly important in this regard. Moreover, even different normal persons have different susceptibility to different infectious agents. Same infectious agent may cause different spectrum of illness in two individuals. Most commonly, a person exposed to "contagious" pneumonia, will either have no symptoms or develop only a mild respiratory tract infection. Developing pneumonia is rare unless the person has compromised immune system or suffering from preexisting heart/lung disease.

http://www.md-health.com/Is-Pneumonia-Contagious.html

And she may not even have bacterial pneumonia. The antibiotics could be precautionary.

[mistermack]

The Hillary Clinton that I saw was clearly refraining from hugging a very huggable little girl.
I thought it was odd at election time.

Still, some people prefer their own made-up facts. Cosy little made-up world.

[Forty Two]

And she may not even have bacterial pneumonia. The antibiotics could be precautionary.

Precautionary means that they aren't sure, but since there is a reasonable chance of it being X we'll treat for X. If that precautionary medication is prescribed, then it would also be a good precaution not to give big hugs to children. Pneumonia kills like 50,000 people a year.

[Forty Two]

The Hillary Clinton that I saw was clearly refraining from hugging a very huggable little girl.
I thought it was odd at election time.

Still, some people prefer their own made-up facts. Cosy little made-up world.

She comes out -- suffering from pneumonia -- a questioner asks how she's feeling and she pretends to be all smiles and says "great! great!" waiving and smiling. A little girl approaches here. She touches the girl on the shoulders and gets very close to her. She is asked a couple times "what happened?" and she simply ignores the questions. Not precisely a hug, but if I had been diagnosed with pneumonia, I would not have touched someone else's kid, or gotten that close to her.





"I like to singa - about the moona and the juna and the springa!"

[Forty Two]

Cllinton was having coughing fits on Friday after she was diagnosed with pneumonia, but she lied and said it was "seasonal allergies."

The larger question that will be raised by the "health scare" is the one that has dogged Clinton forever: Why does she create cover stories rather than reveal the truth? At many critical turns in her lengthy career, Clinton has chosen obfuscation rather than revelation.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2788402

The Goldman-Sachs speeches: What could she possibly have said to investment bankers that the public just can't know? Probably nothing. So why hide it?

Classified documents: She is still saying she never received or sent classified material. PolitiFact calls that false.

The email server itself: Why delete tens of thousands of emails off your private server? Hitting "delete" means "I don't want the public to see this." Telling the public "I don't want you to see this" can be translated to, "I am not trustworthy."

Bill Clinton's infidelity: It's perfectly acceptable to stay with a cheating husband, but it's not acceptable to smear people who are telling the truth about said husband as part of a "vast right-wing conspiracy."

Landing under sniper fire in Bosnia in 1996? It never happened, so why say it did? Being forced to admit the lie years later was far more damaging than having the public know at the time that as First Lady, Hillary Clinton was never fired upon but was, instead, given a bouquet of flowers by a young girl.

Missing law firm records from the 1970s? She said she was a minor player in Whitewater. But if that was true, why hide documents?

The list goes on: Her fixed cattle futures investments, her denials that her husband sold a presidential pardon to Marc Rich, her explanation of why the White House travel office staff was fired and replaced with Clinton friends, defending the false narrative about Benghazi.

[laklak]

Thank God it's not Man Flu.

[Forty Two]

Thank God it's not Man Flu.

Do you think that Hillary has been at any risk of that since the 80s?

[laklak]

Probably not, I doubt Man Flu is transmissible to lizards.

[cronus]

Superspreader. Imagine if she was dealing with a Ebola outbreak?

[Forty Two]

Why did she lie? http://theweek.com/articles/648141/why- ... out-health