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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Tero » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:24 pm

You don't understand politics. It's all this for that. Every congressman and senator is bought and paid for. Only the Illinois governor was too stupid about procedure. He used cash!!!!!

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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Forty Two » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:52 pm

Tero wrote:You don't understand politics. It's all this for that. Every congressman and senator is bought and paid for. Only the Illinois governor was too stupid about procedure. He used cash!!!!!
Clinton is using cash, too.

What would you be saying, if this was a Republican candidate doing exactly what Clinton did?
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Forty Two » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:00 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:This really is your wet dream. You must fancy her something terribly.
Don't you have a broodje haring to eat, or something?
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Tero » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:20 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Tero wrote:You don't understand politics. It's all this for that. Every congressman and senator is bought and paid for. Only the Illinois governor was too stupid about procedure. He used cash!!!!!
Clinton is using cash, too.

What would you be saying, if this was a Republican candidate doing exactly what Clinton did?
They would only be using government influence to promote Jesus and ban abortion. Which most of them do in fact. So we are even.

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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Forty Two » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:39 pm

If your suggestion is that others have done the same as Clinton, then you would need to show that.

The International Youth Fund, whose board members include Laureate's founder, Douglas Baker, received more than $55 million in grants from the U.S. Agency for International Development while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, after donations were made to the Clinton Foundation. Also, Uranium One was approved for the sale of uranium after the chairman donated $2.35 million to the Clinton Foundation." A number of other people involved in the deal also gave money to the Clintons. The Clinton Foundation took in some $100 million in donations from a variety of Gulf sheikhs.

Bill Clinton had a special "business partnership" from 2003 to 2008 with Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum, the ruler of Dubai. That deal netted Clinton some $15 million in "guaranteed payments.". And $30 million was delivered to the Clintons by two Mideast foundations and four billionaire Saudis. For the betterment of humankind, no doubt?

The Clinton Foundation is a pay-to-play fraud, using hardly any of its funds for charitable purposes.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Tero » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:52 pm

There is no Democrat watchdog group like Judicial Watch. Their sole mission is to "get" democrats. example: Pelosi gets shit for flying government plane. Dennis Hastert does the same and gets nothing.
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/pelosis-party-plane/


But there was plenty of pay for play that came out with Bush and his war efforts.
The Clinton Foundation is a pay-to-play fraud, using hardly any of its funds for charitable purposes.
Total bullshit. We are done here.

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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Forty Two » Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:54 pm

When anyone contributes to the Clinton Foundation, it actually goes toward fat salaries, administrative bloat, and lavish travel. Between 2009 and 2012, the Clinton Foundation raised over $500 million dollars according to a review of IRS documents by The Federalist (2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008). A measly 15 percent of that, or $75 million, went towards programmatic grants. More than $25 million went to fund travel expenses. Nearly $110 million went toward employee salaries and benefits. And a whopping $290 million during that period — nearly 60 percent of all money raised — was classified merely as ‘other expenses.

You can present whatever evidence of pay-for-play associated with folks other than Clinton -- to date you have presented nothing. However, the most that will prove, of course, is that other people are crooked too. If that's the terrain you wish to defend, then have at it.

As for "no Democrat watchdog group" going after Republicans. Come on. Almost every media outlet is Democrat. CNN -- the Clinton News Network. They craft the news to support Clinton. MSNBC is a set of shills for the Democrat Party.

Moreover, there are plenty of watchdog groups gunning for Republicans -- FAIR (Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting), Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), The American Democracy Legal Fund. The notion that Democrats have more scrutiny upon them than Republicans is absurd, laughable.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Tyrannical » Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:57 pm

Be nice to Tero. He's randomly trolling without research and I think he's smart enough to know how dumb that makes him look. Give him a chance to research some more.
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Forty Two » Wed Aug 24, 2016 5:30 pm

There was a sale of a controlling stake in a Canadian company called Uranium One to Rosatom, the Russian atomic energy agency. Because Uranium One controlled uranium mines in the United States, the sale had to be approved by the Committee on Foreign Investment In the United States (CFIUS), part of the executive branch.

A number of investors in Uranium One gave donations to the Clinton Foundation during the time the sale was being considered (between 2008 and 2010), in part through the participation of Frank Giustra, a Canadian mining magnate who was a large donor to the Foundation and who had controlled a company that eventually bought Uranium One. Bill Clinton was paid $500,000 in 2010 to give a speech to a Russian bank with ties to the Russian government. The U.S. government eventually approved the deal in 2010.

There was a multimillion-dollar Foundation gift from an obscure Indian politician that coincided with Hillary Clinton’s reversal on the nuclear nonproliferation treaty.... another coinkydink!

One author cites "dozens of examples" and "a pattern" in which donations are made to the foundation and official action by Hillary Clinton occurs thereafter. Peter Schweitzer, Clinton Cash (2016)
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Forty Two » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:30 pm

Clinton's closest State Department aides were closely involved in projects with Clinton Foundation, according to emails released Tuesday

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4IM2S06Ao
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Forty Two » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:32 pm

Julian Assange and Wikileaks have another email dump coming -- more dirt on Hillary -- http://www.infowars.com/assange-new-hil ... ches-fire/
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Animavore » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:37 pm

Lol. More nonsense.
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Animavore » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:38 pm

Fuck Wikileaks.
WikiLeaks has published highly personal data on many private citizens around the world, including the name of a Saudi Arabian man arrested for being gay, an Associated Press investigation has found.

Publishing the name of the Saudi man is “an extraordinary move given that homosexuality can lead to social ostracism, a prison sentence or even death in the ultraconservative Muslim kingdom,” the AP reported today.

The site, founded by Julian Assange, was originally set up to expose questionable actions by governments worldwide. It is famed for publishing diplomatic cables and other documents leaked by Chelsea Manning when she was in the U.S. Army, an act for which she has been imprisoned. More recently, it has publicized Democratic Natinal Committee emails. But in the past year, it has made much more sensitive information about ordinary citizens publicly available, according to the AP.

In addition to outing the Saudi man, the site has published the names of teenage rape victims, medical records, financial data, and information relating to paternity disputes, custody fights, and other family concerns, the AP reports.

The news service, which is not publishing names or other identifying details from the WikiLeaks files, contacted 23 people who were affected. Most of them live in Saudi Arabia, where the site is censored, so they did not know their information had appeared there. Some were unfazed when told of the situation, but some were “horrified,” the AP notes.
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by laklak » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:39 pm

That's exactly her face when I dropped trou.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Animavore » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:42 pm

Lol. Assange keeps threatening, the little toad. Release or don't release or fuck off. No time for this playing games shite.
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