The Donald-thread

[Forty Two]

A vote for Trump is a vote for the Republican party. FFS. You're not voting for a dictator.

Or are you?

In the US, a vote for Trump is a vote for Trump. He's not the leader of the "party" in terms of the legislature. That's where the US differs from most parliamentary systems. The Prime Minister is the leader of the majority party in Parliament, so controlling the head of government is also control of the legislature. That's not the way it is here. In the US, the leader of the Republicans in our "house of commons" (the House of Representatives) is Paul Ryan, known as the Speaker of the House.

So, you can have a Republican president and a democratic legislature - which is a very common thing -- under Reagan and GHWBush they both had to work with a democrat congress. In fact, the Democrats controlled the legislature in the US for something like 60 years running, even though there were several Republican Presidents (Bush I, Reagan, Nixon, and Eisenhower) during that time frame.

[Seth]

How unsurprising. All that needs to be said about your judgement is that you claim to be an anarchist.

No i don't. You'd think after all these years you would have learnt how to read betterer.

You lie through your teeth...again.

Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Postby eRvin » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:18 am
None of that makes any sense. More empty rhetoric like "identity politics" which doesn't make sense to me. And for the 4 millionth time, I'm ideologically an anarchist and pragmatically a capitalist. Don't let that stop your silly rants, though.

Ideologically, yes (although, I ideologically take from a number of the socialist ideologies, but predominantly anarchism), but pragmatically no. That's difference between me and the likes of you and the Marxists. You think that pure ideology could work. That's extreme.

Yada, yada, yada. You're just backpedaling now that I've proven that you lie. Anarchy is idiocy. You figure out the rest.

[Seth]

Hillary is part of the problem not the solution. But at least she's an adult and predictable.

Well, she is part of the problem, and what's predictable is that she'll continue to exacerbate the problem.

Unless of course one of our ambassadors somewhere comes under attack, in which case she'll sleep through the phone call and decline to deploy military forces.

[Forty Two]

[Brian Peacock]

i just don't know what to believe about him. Everything I hear in the media is bad, but the establishment media is clearly going to be against him if he intends to follow through with his economic policies. And everything Coito says about him here sounds not too terrible. But given Coito's history of creative interpretation of stuff, I am reticent to believe what he says. So I wonder if he might be about middle of those lot. As stupid and random as GW Bush, but less of a neocon and less of a neoliberal. So, utterly unqualified to be Prez, but not all that much worse than what's been thrown up in the last 40 odd years or more.

The only thing that matters at this point is that he's better for the country than Hillary would be.

I'm clearly no Hillary fan, but putting a child like Donald in charge of the free world doesn't sound like too much of a good idea to me..

How unsurprising. All that needs to be said about your judgement is that you claim you're an anarchist. That says everything anyone ever needs to know about the quality of your arguments...among other qualities. You can't polish shit, no matter how hard you try.

Anarchism is Libertarianism with balls.

Just saying

[DRSB]

And Putin.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/all-si ... e-dnc-hack

[Seth]

i just don't know what to believe about him. Everything I hear in the media is bad, but the establishment media is clearly going to be against him if he intends to follow through with his economic policies. And everything Coito says about him here sounds not too terrible. But given Coito's history of creative interpretation of stuff, I am reticent to believe what he says. So I wonder if he might be about middle of those lot. As stupid and random as GW Bush, but less of a neocon and less of a neoliberal. So, utterly unqualified to be Prez, but not all that much worse than what's been thrown up in the last 40 odd years or more.

The only thing that matters at this point is that he's better for the country than Hillary would be.

I'm clearly no Hillary fan, but putting a child like Donald in charge of the free world doesn't sound like too much of a good idea to me..

How unsurprising. All that needs to be said about your judgement is that you claim you're an anarchist. That says everything anyone ever needs to know about the quality of your arguments...among other qualities. You can't polish shit, no matter how hard you try.

Anarchism is Libertarianism with balls.

Just saying

Only if you hold an idiotic and completely false understanding of Libertarianism, which has nothing to do with anarchy.

[Tyrannical]

And Putin.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/all-si ... e-dnc-hack

So is it Putin or the actual hackers that get the Nobel prize for this revalation?

[pErvinalia]

The only thing that matters at this point is that he's better for the country than Hillary would be.

I'm clearly no Hillary fan, but putting a child like Donald in charge of the free world doesn't sound like too much of a good idea to me..

How unsurprising. All that needs to be said about your judgement is that you claim you're an anarchist. That says everything anyone ever needs to know about the quality of your arguments...among other qualities. You can't polish shit, no matter how hard you try.

Anarchism is Libertarianism with balls.

Just saying

Only if you hold an idiotic and completely false understanding of Libertarianism, which has nothing to do with anarchy.

He's talking about actual libertarianism, not Merka's bastardised version.

[Brian Peacock]

Anarchism is Libertarianism with balls.

Just saying

Only if you hold an idiotic and completely false understanding of Libertarianism, which has nothing to do with anarchy.

Who's talking about anarchy? I said 'anarchism' not anarchy.

Do you believe that individuals are wholly autonomous agents, free to chose their own values, goals, and actions; that this autonomous state of absolute freedom for the individual is an uncompromising virtue, one which is similar or equivalent to an inherent right in both form and practice; that the individual has no autonomy-compromising content-independent or preemptive obligation to conform to or obey authority; that authority does not and cannot reside in any notion of a justified coercion, either self-declared or granted? If so, then anarchism's your thing.

[Seth]

He's talking about actual libertarianism, not Merka's bastardised version.

You don't begin to understand "actual libertarianism" and never have, and probably never will, and probably willfully and intentionally so because otherwise you'd have no favorite strawman to trot out whenever you feel like presenting egregiously ignorant, ill mannered and intellectually dishonest bilge.

[Seth]

Anarchism is Libertarianism with balls.

Just saying

Only if you hold an idiotic and completely false understanding of Libertarianism, which has nothing to do with anarchy.

Who's talking about anarchy? I said 'anarchism' not anarchy.

A distinction without a difference I'm afraid.

Do you believe that individuals are wholly autonomous agents, free to chose their own values, goals, and actions; that this autonomous state of absolute freedom for the individual is an uncompromising virtue, one which is similar or equivalent to an inherent right in both form and practice; that the individual has no autonomy-compromising content-independent or preemptive obligation to conform to or obey authority; that authority does not and cannot reside in any notion of a justified coercion, either self-declared or granted? If so, then anarchism's your thing.

Which is why anarchism is idiotic and anarchists are fucking idiots of the highest order and are NOT Libertarians.

[DaveDodo007]

Trump. Trump, Trump and even more Trump.


http://www.fountainfacts.com/2016/07/br ... ulian.html

[Tero]

America loves Trump kind of the same way it loves its guns.

[JimC]

America loves Trump kind of the same way it loves its guns.

Americans want to fondle Trump, play with him and kill people with him?