Russia accuses Poland of starting Second World War

[AshtonBlack]

The stupidity of people knows no bounds.

[Cormac]

Basil Fawlty: You started it
German Guest: No we didn't
Basil Fawlty: Yes you did, you invaded Poland!

Yes, those Poles were begging for it! Wearing a short skirt, flaunting themselves in front of the Germans (and Russians) like some kind of shameless hussy. It is a well known fact that big greedy countries can't help themselves when faced with such provocative and salacious teasing.

[AshtonBlack]

Basil Fawlty: You started it
German Guest: No we didn't
Basil Fawlty: Yes you did, you invaded Poland!

Yes, those Poles were begging for it! Wearing a short skirt, flaunting themselves in front of the Germans (and Russians) like some kind of shameless hussy. It is a well known fact that big greedy countries can't help themselves when faced with such provocative and salacious teasing.

Should Poland have worn a country sized burqa then none of the "unpleasantness" would have happened.

[Cormac]

Basil Fawlty: You started it
German Guest: No we didn't
Basil Fawlty: Yes you did, you invaded Poland!

Yes, those Poles were begging for it! Wearing a short skirt, flaunting themselves in front of the Germans (and Russians) like some kind of shameless hussy. It is a well known fact that big greedy countries can't help themselves when faced with such provocative and salacious teasing.

Should Poland have worn a country sized burqa then none of the "unpleasantness" would have happened.

See the logic now? We've been calling them loonies all along, but it seems they were right. For national security, drape your country in a Burqa...

[Cormac]

Basil Fawlty: You started it
German Guest: No we didn't
Basil Fawlty: Yes you did, you invaded Poland!

Yes, those Poles were begging for it! Wearing a short skirt, flaunting themselves in front of the Germans (and Russians) like some kind of shameless hussy. It is a well known fact that big greedy countries can't help themselves when faced with such provocative and salacious teasing.

Should Poland have worn a country sized burqa then none of the "unpleasantness" would have happened.

Incidentally, I feel duty bound to remind you that in fact there was no such thing as WW2. There was, in fact, an "Emergency".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emergency_(Ireland)

[Hermit]

Basil Fawlty: You started it
German Guest: No we didn't
Basil Fawlty: Yes you did, you invaded Poland!

Yes, those Poles were begging for it! Wearing a short skirt, flaunting themselves in front of the Germans (and Russians) like some kind of shameless hussy. It is a well known fact that big greedy countries can't help themselves when faced with such provocative and salacious teasing.

Again, whenever the opportunity to steal neighbouring territory arose, Poland was no less enthusiastic to seize it than any other country. At one stage it occupied most of the Ukraine and vast tracts of Russia, reaching to Smolensk and beyond. Historically speaking, there was never any love lost between the Poles and the Russians because they have invaded each other for centuries. It is a mistake to think of Poland as the perennial victim.

[Cormac]

Basil Fawlty: You started it
German Guest: No we didn't
Basil Fawlty: Yes you did, you invaded Poland!

Yes, those Poles were begging for it! Wearing a short skirt, flaunting themselves in front of the Germans (and Russians) like some kind of shameless hussy. It is a well known fact that big greedy countries can't help themselves when faced with such provocative and salacious teasing.

Again, whenever the opportunity to steal neighbouring territory arose, Poland was no less enthusiastic to seize it than any other country. At one stage it occupied most of the Ukraine and vast tracts of Russia, reaching to Smolensk and beyond. Historically speaking, there was never any love lost between the Poles and the Russians because they have invaded each other for centuries. It is a mistake to think of Poland as the perennial victim.

Never suggested it. I was merely commenting upon the fascistic Russian politician's revisionist and neo-Imperialist agenda.

[Hermit]

Basil Fawlty: You started it
German Guest: No we didn't
Basil Fawlty: Yes you did, you invaded Poland!

Yes, those Poles were begging for it! Wearing a short skirt, flaunting themselves in front of the Germans (and Russians) like some kind of shameless hussy. It is a well known fact that big greedy countries can't help themselves when faced with such provocative and salacious teasing.

Again, whenever the opportunity to steal neighbouring territory arose, Poland was no less enthusiastic to seize it than any other country. At one stage it occupied most of the Ukraine and vast tracts of Russia, reaching to Smolensk and beyond. Historically speaking, there was never any love lost between the Poles and the Russians because they have invaded each other for centuries. It is a mistake to think of Poland as the perennial victim.

I was merely commenting upon the [snip] neo-Imperialist agenda.

In that regard we certainly agree: some elements within the Russian administration are once again feeling in an expansive mood.

[Cormac]

Basil Fawlty: You started it
German Guest: No we didn't
Basil Fawlty: Yes you did, you invaded Poland!

Yes, those Poles were begging for it! Wearing a short skirt, flaunting themselves in front of the Germans (and Russians) like some kind of shameless hussy. It is a well known fact that big greedy countries can't help themselves when faced with such provocative and salacious teasing.

Again, whenever the opportunity to steal neighbouring territory arose, Poland was no less enthusiastic to seize it than any other country. At one stage it occupied most of the Ukraine and vast tracts of Russia, reaching to Smolensk and beyond. Historically speaking, there was never any love lost between the Poles and the Russians because they have invaded each other for centuries. It is a mistake to think of Poland as the perennial victim.

I was merely commenting upon the [snip] neo-Imperialist agenda.

In that regard we certainly agree: some elements within the Russian administration are once again feeling in an expansive mood.

Well there is only one element within the Russian administration - the Dictator Putin. Everyone else falls in line, or else.

[Hermit]

those Poles were begging for it! Wearing a short skirt, flaunting themselves in front of the Germans Hitler (and Russians Putin) like some kind of shameless hussy. It is a well known fact that big greedy countries dictators can't help themselves when faced with such provocative and salacious teasing.

Again, whenever the opportunity to steal neighbouring territory arose, Poland was no less enthusiastic to seize it than any other country. At one stage it occupied most of the Ukraine and vast tracts of Russia, reaching to Smolensk and beyond. Historically speaking, there was never any love lost between the Poles and the Russians because they have invaded each other for centuries. It is a mistake to think of Poland as the perennial victim.

I was merely commenting upon the Putin's [snip] neo-Imperialist agenda.

In that regard we certainly agree: some elements within the Russian administration are once again feeling in an expansive mood.

Well there is only one element within the Russian administration - the Dictator Putin. Everyone else falls in line, or else.

In that case I'll just fix your earlier posts. There,

[Cormac]

In that case I'll just fix your earlier posts. There,

Nope.

The CURRENT Russian minister is recasting the circumstances surrounding the invasion of Poland, conveniently ignoring the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. This is a blatant revision of history. Poland was quite right to reject any threat or demand made by Nazi Germany, as any state should reject the posturings of aggressor states. But the purpose of this recasting of history is not done out of an interest in past history, it is about declaring an existing policy.

The intent is clearly to intimidate Poland, and all other former slave-states of the Soviet Union. It is an exposition of Putin's plans for his totalitarian expansionism.

[Guy_Montag]

I am wondering if Medvedev will manage to take out Putin before Putin takes him out. Or if Putin is sufficiently satisfied that Medvedev is his bitch that he'll just pension him off to some Dacha.

[Cormac]

I am wondering if Medvedev will manage to take out Putin before Putin takes him out. Or if Putin is sufficiently satisfied that Medvedev is his bitch that he'll just pension him off to some Dacha.

Either way, if i were Mevedev i'd be expecting the bullet already.

[Mishakal]

I am wondering if Medvedev will manage to take out Putin before Putin takes him out. Or if Putin is sufficiently satisfied that Medvedev is his bitch that he'll just pension him off to some Dacha.

I think the later rather than the other two options, Medvedev seems quite content at being Putin's little puppet.

[klr]

Someone trying to mend fences:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8230387.stm

Putin condemns Nazi-Soviet pact

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has condemned the Nazi-Soviet pact signed a week before Germany's 1939 invasion of Poland as "immoral".

In a piece for the Polish paper Gazeta Wyborcza, he also expressed sorrow for a Soviet massacre of Poles in 1940.

His words were an attempt to ease bilateral tensions over World War II.

Mr Putin is among several statesmen attending a service in the Polish port city of Gdansk on Tuesday to mark the 70th anniversary of Poland's invasion.

"Our duty is to remove the burden of distrust and prejudice left from the past in Polish-Russian relations," said Mr Putin in the article, which was also published on the Russian government website.

"Our duty... is to turn the page and start to write a new one."

But he added that the Soviet Union had felt obliged to sign the non-aggression treaty due to the failure of Western European powers to present a united front against Nazi Germany.

Katyn regret

Memories of the 1939 pact - in which the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany essentially agreed to carve up Poland and the Baltic States between them - have long soured relations between Warsaw and Moscow.

Within a month of the pact being signed, Soviet troops had invaded and occupied parts of eastern Poland.

"It is possible to condemn - and with good reason - the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact concluded in August 1939," wrote Mr Putin, referring to the two foreign ministers who signed the pact at the Kremlin.

"Today we understand that any form of agreement with the Nazi regime was unacceptable from the moral point of view and had no chance of being realised."

He added that Russian people "understand all too well the acute emotions of Poles in connection with Katyn".

In 1940 Soviet secret police massacred more than 21,000 army officers and intellectuals on Stalin's direct orders in the Katyn forest near the city of Smolensk.

Moscow only took responsibility for the killings in 1990, having previously blamed the massacre on the Nazis.