GOP Primaries/Caucuses Discussions, Jokes and Predictions

[Forty Two]

Those people never had anyone else to vote for anyway...

Their violent rhetoric has no place in political discourse, right?

I mean, when Trump suggested that people would be upset if the establishment GOP brought in an outsider to take the nomination from Trump at a brokered convention, and that some folks might riot, that drew gasps and outrage against Trump, because, you know, he has violent rhetoric.... mobs of people holding banners that said that Californian and the western US should be ceded to Mexico, as they actually riot, roll police cars, destroy property, commit arson, engage in assaults and batteries, and call for the immediate commission of violence.... well, they're probably an oppressed and marginalized group who have been traditionally disfavored, and their violence is just "punching up" against power, so good on them...

[Tyrannical]

I don't think Trump meant riot literary. Riots are always minorities and leftists. We should just shoot the rioters and be done with it.

[Forty Two]

I just find it weird that if Trump uses the word riot in the context of a "what will happen..." discussion, it's violent rhetoric that inflames his supporters (who are almost never violent) to become violent. However, when the opposition to Trump actually calls for the commission of immediate violence, and then follows through on it to actually commit serious crimes and violence, it's "protest" and the media is not really concerned about "violent rhetoric" anymore.

[pErvinalia]

Aren't there already penalties for hiring illegals?

Sure, but enforcement is nonexistent.

And, in the US it's fairly easy to make money without being hired. What a lot of illegals do is start their own companies. One common thing to do is start a cleaning service. They show up, find a community of other expatriates from their country, and they can be hired "under the table" for cash payments off the books, and then they save up some dough. They then start a side business where they get folks to hire them to clean houses. I know an illegal alien couple personally that claims to take home $80k per year after taxes for cleaning houses about 8 hours a day.

See, this is what I don't get. How are they forming companies and paying taxes? That requires interaction with the government. Surely the government checks whether they are giving business rights to a citizen or not, yes?

No.

You do not have to be citizen, or even a permanent resident, or even living in the United States, to form a corporation in the US. Corporations are formed at the State level, so you New York corporations, Delaware Corporations, California corporations, etc. Anyone can file articles of incorporation and choose a name, declare an officer/director and designate a resident agent/registered office in the State and start working. State governments do not enforce immigration laws, and there is no law that says foreigners can't own businesses in the US. Conducting a trade or business in the US can be against the terms of a visa, but that's for the federal government to enforce -- and the federal government is run by people who really don't give a fuck about illegals working. In fact, the current party in control, the Democrats, want to extend whatever courtesies they can to illegals, because they want to make them legal, seeing each one as a new voter. Hence the huge push to "naturalize" as many people as they can this year....grateful new voters!

Also, one can run a business as a sole proprietorship without registering. Just pick a name and go. The only real problem is taxes. But the IRS doesn't give a fuck if you're illegal. Just pay your taxes. Illegals can file tax returns, pay taxes, get audited, whatever, and there are no consequences. The policy is to encourage money earners to file and pay taxes.

That's just bizarre.

You'd think the states registering companies would need some proof of id from the person registering.

[pErvinalia]

I saw a good quote tonight (paraphrasing): It's not Trump that is scary. Its the fact that he has supporters.

Whatever Trump might really be, a lot of his supporters aren't afraid of violent, racist and sexist rhetoric. And even actual violence going by his campaign events.

[Forty Two]

That's just bizarre.

You'd think the states registering companies would need some proof of id from the person registering.

It's done online, so, no. You just fill out the form. Looks much the same in Oz. Just fill out a form and submit it.

What ID requirements exist in Oz to form a corporation?

By the way, as we know, requiring ID is discriminatory against minorities in the US. We are told that African Americans are less likely to have IDs than white people, so requiring IDs means a disparate impact on African Americans.

[Forty Two]

fivethirtyeight.com predicts The Donald has a 69% chance of taking Indiana tomorrow. The most recent polls have Trump way ahead.

so, looks like after tomorrow, Cruz is toast.

[Tyrannical]

I saw a good quote tonight (paraphrasing): It's not Trump that is scary. Its the fact that he has supporters.

Whatever Trump might really be, a lot of his supporters aren't afraid of violent, racist and sexist rhetoric. And even actual violence going by his campaign events.

Yet you ONLY see that violent behavior from Bernie and Clinton supporters. Bernie's are by far the worst, same tactics Hitler used with brown shirts. That's going to cost the Democrats the election.

Oh, new ramusen poll, Trump over Clinton 41% to 39%. 5% undecided, 15% won't vote or 3rd party. The more bernies brown shirts riot, the better trump does.

[Forty Two]

LOL -- the violence at campaign events is committed almost exclusively by anti-Trump protesters -- look at this: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/04/ ... ing-melee/

Those folks aren't afraid of "violent, racist and sexist rhetoric and even actual violence." They're flipping over cop cars. The anti-Trump protesters go there looking for violence. The rare violence we've seen from Trump supporters is always in response to provocation from anti-Trump protesters who are there to disrupt, antagonize and agitate.

[Tyrannical]

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/shock- ... upporters/

Only makes the Wall more popular......

[piscator]

"The other guys always start it!" -- Trumpoloni

[laklak]

"But I finish it" - Trumplegruber

[piscator]

Those people never had anyone else to vote for anyway...

Their violent rhetoric has no place in political discourse, right?

I'm glad Trump is giving them a voice they haven't previously had, outside of a Klan rally or an armed takeover of some Federal land.
Since most of them admit to being Marine Corps veterans of foreign wars, maybe Trump should organize them into a terrific elite security squad for his speaking engagements? It'll be fantastic.

[piscator]

"But I finish it" - Trumplegruber

Trumplestilskin? I'll deck him in the third, if he hasn't pussied out by then.

[pErvinalia]

That's just bizarre.

You'd think the states registering companies would need some proof of id from the person registering.

It's done online, so, no. You just fill out the form. Looks much the same in Oz. Just fill out a form and submit it.

What ID requirements exist in Oz to form a corporation?

I'm not sure. I'm trying to remember back to when I got my ABN (Australian Business Number) as a self trader. I'm pretty sure back then it was all paper forms. But can't remember how I even submitted it.