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Re: Science Undecided on Room Temperature Superconductors

Post by Forty Two » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:51 pm

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You really think such clear motivations are written on planning documents? I'd call that naive, except I know it's just more American defensiveness...
No, but you should have more specifics than just stuff like "come on! don't be naive! of course the war was for oil!" Iraq had oil, the US invaded, therefore the war was for oil.

The US didn't need to go to war to get what it got after the invasion. In fact, the US could have gotten a lot more from Hussein directly, in exchange for lifting the sanctions on Iraq, than it has gotten from the war.

If anything can be said to be a debacle, it's the LACK of benefit received by the US and US interests from the war. Not only was the war a foreign policy blunder, and a huge setback to the overall global strategy against rogue nations and international terrorist organizations, but also it was a pure gift to Russia and China. Russia and China, of course, were violating the sanctions regime as much as they could back in the 1990s and early 2000s. Now, however, they have nothing stopping them from drilling like mad, and that's what they're doing. The US companies have not been nearly as fortunate. In other words, if we were stealing the oil, we really suck at it. We basically blew open the safe, and let a bunch of other guys take the loot.
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Re: Science Undecided on Room Temperature Superconductors

Post by Seth » Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:02 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:Except direct quotes from influential people.
Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one, and most of them smell bad. Yours particularly so.

Let's see the smoking gun documents from Wikileaks or STFU.
No, let's ignore you. Because you are a dishonest debater.
In other words you're full of shit, you know it, and you don't have a shred of objective evidence to support your claims so you're resorting to personal insults, which makes YOU the dishonest debater.
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Re: Science Undecided on Room Temperature Superconductors

Post by rainbow » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:48 am

Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:Except direct quotes from influential people.
Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one, and most of them smell bad. Yours particularly so.

Let's see the smoking gun documents from Wikileaks or STFU.
No, let's ignore you. Because you are a dishonest debater.
In other words you're full of shit, you know it, and you don't have a shred of objective evidence to support your claims so you're resorting to personal insults, which makes YOU the dishonest debater.
...except you are also resorting to personal insults. :ask:

What does that make you, Seth?
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Re: Science Undecided on Room Temperature Superconductors

Post by Hermit » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:59 am

rainbow wrote:...except you are also resorting to personal insults. :ask:

What does that make you, Seth?
Pre-empting Seth: No, "he started it" doesn't wash.
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Re: Science Undecided on Room Temperature Superconductors

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:33 pm

Seth started it 8 years ago.
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Re: Science Undecided on Room Temperature Superconductors

Post by Hermit » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:45 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Seth started it 8 years ago.
And you've been restarting it ever since.
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Re: Science Undecided on Room Temperature Superconductors

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:23 pm

He restarted it first.
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Re: Science Undecided on Room Temperature Superconductors

Post by Hermit » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:22 pm

Don't start with me, sunshine! :irate:
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Re: Science Undecided on Room Temperature Superconductors

Post by Seth » Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:19 am

rainbow wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:Except direct quotes from influential people.
Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one, and most of them smell bad. Yours particularly so.

Let's see the smoking gun documents from Wikileaks or STFU.
No, let's ignore you. Because you are a dishonest debater.
In other words you're full of shit, you know it, and you don't have a shred of objective evidence to support your claims so you're resorting to personal insults, which makes YOU the dishonest debater.
...except you are also resorting to personal insults. :ask:

What does that make you, Seth?
Morally justified.
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