rEvolutionist wrote:
Nah, I'm over you. You either can't debate honestly, or there's some real malfunction going on upstairs. Hermit has explained well to you link between SA and international terrorism, despite you apparently not even knowing there was a link.
SA is one of the most repressive theocracies in the world. Saddam was equivalent to a lot of the other dictatorships the US has allied itself with in the region and world. This is simple stuff. To everyone but you, unfortunately.
The US does not have a mandate to take down "repressive theocracies" sua sponte. However "repressive" SA may be, it's not our business to go nation-building over there. If the people of SA want to rise up against the repressive regime and ask for our assistance, we may be persuaded to assist them if doing so is in our national interests. Or not.
The US did, however, have a defense treaty with Kuwait that obligated it to come to Kuwait's aid when Saddam invaded, and it had a mandate to reopen hostilities after 12 years and 14 distinct violations of the cease fire agreement and UN declarations under which we allowed Saddam to stay in power.
You see, we left him in power the first time precisely in order to try to avoid the inevitable chaos and Islamic takeover of Iraq that eventually occurred. But, at the time Saddam didn't give us, or the rest of the Coalition, which included the UK and, as I recall, Australia, much of a choice when he defied the cease-fire agreement so we had to take him out. Unfortunately that allowed the Muslims to do what they have done and now we have to deal with them, but that's just how international geopolitics goes some times.
Germany was an ally, then an enemy, then an ally, then an enemy and once again an ally.
Things change. Shit happens. You go with the flow and roll with the punches and deal today with what must be dealt with today and leave tomorrow to tomorrow sometimes. It ain't ideal, but it's how the world actually works.
If the House of Saud becomes an open and notorious supporter of Islamic terrorism or threatens to nuke us we'll have to deal with that when it comes up. Until then, we, like everybody else, need the oil so we hold our noses and let the Saudis run Saudi Arabia as they please because it's their country. If the Saudi people want change it's up to them to change things.
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