Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

[Brian Peacock]

"Inflammatory statements" is a pretty good catch-all for saying stuff outside group-think...

He called his interlocutors raving hypocrites

Oh my.. that cannot be countenanced.

Yeah, I mean raving. Really? Surely he meant rabid?

[Forty Two]

So RatSkep is evil for attempting to follow its FUA, but Ratz is virtuous for largely ignoring its own FUA?

Ratskep applies its FUA in an extremely biased, and overtly selective manner. There is an infection of Atheism Plus asshats there, I have gathered.

[Forty Two]

"Inflammatory statements" is a pretty good catch-all for saying stuff outside group-think...

When you have literally identical word strings being deemed inflammatory when one person uses them, but not when another person uses them, you know the rule is essentially just being used as an excuse to sanction certain posters.

Moderators there "know" that person X is using that word string to inflame and provoke, but person Y is not. Person Y is said to be "commenting on the posting behavior and style" of other members.

[Forty Two]

"Inflammatory statements" is a pretty good catch-all for saying stuff outside group-think...

He called his interlocutors raving hypocrites

Rationalia suspends members for personal attacks. No worse has been done to Forty Two, that what was done here to rEv

They suspend SOME members for personal attacks.

I didn't call anyone a hypocrite. I identified their posts as hypocritical. I was specifically told that commenting on a person's posting style and behavior was permissible, and that's why people could go around endlessly telling me my posts were lies and my motives were nefarious. They would say I was trolling.

It was ok to say someone was trolling, you just can't call them a troll. A moderator told me exactly that. So, calling someone hypocritical is not a personal attack. That's a comment on their posting style and behavior.

If you look at how I was badgered and dogpiled there, you will see that they have no problem with harassment and personal attacks, as long as it is against someone they view as right wing. And, right wing includes liberals there, because I am quite liberal. They are leftist authoritarians there, at least those who run the place and moderate it. They are not liberal, that's for sure.

[Forty Two]

"Inflammatory statements" is a pretty good catch-all for saying stuff outside group-think...

He called his interlocutors raving hypocrites

Rationalia suspends members for personal attacks. No worse has been done to Forty Two, that what was done here to rEv

Oh, and calling them my "interlocutors" is quite kind to them. Interlocutors. I invite anyone to go to some of the threads I created there and tell me if they are best described as interlocutors or if another descriptor is more appropriate.

[Forty Two]

I was banned from rationalskepticism the other day, apparently. I can't wait to log back on next week to find out what it was that I did wrong.

I went through some discussions there where it was pointed out to me that attacking someone's "posting habits and behavior" is perfectly fine, like, telling someone their posts are stupid, they're trolling, and their posting idiocy, etc., as opposed to "you're stupid, a troll and an idiot", are fine. So, for a while now, I have been very careful to couch everything in terms of a person's posting habits and behavior.

Folks there tend to dogpile on me there, and attack attack and derail - they love to get into derails over the "motive" associated with creating a thread. E.g., if you post some bizarre news item about the latest SJW fiasco, they will piss all over the thread and claim that it's just being created to give feminists or other SJWs a bad name. I've been told that I'm trolling, and that I'm lying and all that. Nobody ever can give examples of any lies - they just tell me to look at my general posting history and that everyone knows it.

It's a strange bunch that took over that site. I think leftovers from Atheism+ are there, because their modus operandi is similar.

Or you were suspended for a week for making personal attacks and inflammatory statements.

Well, when they let me back in, I'll find out. I don't recall making any personal attacks. I do recall commenting on peoples' posting style and behavior -- in response to their comments concerning my posting style and behavior - which I was told, specifically, by moderators there, is perfectly allowable.

I'm happy to admit that I'm wrong, if the post they suspended me for is, indeed, a "personal attack." We can all slip up, especially when we are being constantly followed around from thread to thread and badgered by a bunch of fuckwit, identity politic, leftist authoritarians complaining that they don't like the topic which was created because they think my motives were impure.

One of the funny things about some of the forum members there - they will post dozens of times in a thread they think is worthless. They don't like the topic, and they think the creator (me) had an ulterior motive and nefarious purpose in creating it. So....they keep posting in it. There are hundreds of topics, and all members are free to create threads they want to talk about, but what they prefer to do is come to my threads and piss all over them, filling up the pages with attacks on my motives, calling me a liar, telling me I've created the thread to sully the good name of feminism (or whatever) --- they are purposefully trying to stop conversations about topics they don't think should have been created.

[Strontium Dog]

If you look at how I was badgered and dogpiled there, you will see that they have no problem with harassment and personal attacks, as long as it is against someone they view as right wing. And, right wing includes liberals there, because I am quite liberal. They are leftist authoritarians there, at least those who run the place and moderate it. They are not liberal, that's for sure.

I don't think all of them are leftist authoritarians. However, they certainly enable and pander to that mindset. As a liberal, supporter of liberty and defender of democracy, I have always been a target for the neo-communists' ire. However lately even people like Emmeline and Thommo, who are among the most reasonable people you could ever hope to encounter, have been copping abuse from the Corbyn trolls, simply for not being true believers.

It's a pattern of behaviour that is being played out all over social media and the Internet, with moderates being harrassed and bullied by neo-communists, emboldened by Corbyn's election as Labour leader. I had hoped that RatSkep, as a place of intended rationalism, would be immune to the tidal wave. Alas it was not.

I don't wholly blame the moderating team for falling under the pressure of it - they are only human - though the failure to inform me, after a week, of the reasons for my exclusion from a community I have been a member of for more than eight years is completely dishonourable and unbecoming of supposedly civilised people.

[DaveDodo007]

I was banned from rationalskepticism the other day, apparently. I can't wait to log back on next week to find out what it was that I did wrong.

I went through some discussions there where it was pointed out to me that attacking someone's "posting habits and behavior" is perfectly fine, like, telling someone their posts are stupid, they're trolling, and their posting idiocy, etc., as opposed to "you're stupid, a troll and an idiot", are fine. So, for a while now, I have been very careful to couch everything in terms of a person's posting habits and behavior.

Folks there tend to dogpile on me there, and attack attack and derail - they love to get into derails over the "motive" associated with creating a thread. E.g., if you post some bizarre news item about the latest SJW fiasco, they will piss all over the thread and claim that it's just being created to give feminists or other SJWs a bad name. I've been told that I'm trolling, and that I'm lying and all that. Nobody ever can give examples of any lies - they just tell me to look at my general posting history and that everyone knows it.

It's a strange bunch that took over that site. I think leftovers from Atheism+ are there, because their modus operandi is similar.

Or you were suspended for a week for making personal attacks and inflammatory statements.

Well, when they let me back in, I'll find out. I don't recall making any personal attacks. I do recall commenting on peoples' posting style and behavior -- in response to their comments concerning my posting style and behavior - which I was told, specifically, by moderators there, is perfectly allowable.

I'm happy to admit that I'm wrong, if the post they suspended me for is, indeed, a "personal attack." We can all slip up, especially when we are being constantly followed around from thread to thread and badgered by a bunch of fuckwit, identity politic, leftist authoritarians complaining that they don't like the topic which was created because they think my motives were impure.

One of the funny things about some of the forum members there - they will post dozens of times in a thread they think is worthless. They don't like the topic, and they think the creator (me) had an ulterior motive and nefarious purpose in creating it. So....they keep posting in it. There are hundreds of topics, and all members are free to create threads they want to talk about, but what they prefer to do is come to my threads and piss all over them, filling up the pages with attacks on my motives, calling me a liar, telling me I've created the thread to sully the good name of feminism (or whatever) --- they are purposefully trying to stop conversations about topics they don't think should have been created.

I love the whole 'agenda' stupidity, the only reason for making a post is to get people commentating on it. Nobody wants a dead OP. Talk about a bunch of narcissist whom get butthurt when you question their ideology.

[JimC]

Dodo, this is probably one of the very, very few forums that do not or have not banned your arse, even though you keep insisting we are all a bunch of leftist, politically correct wankers...

[DaveDodo007]

If you look at how I was badgered and dogpiled there, you will see that they have no problem with harassment and personal attacks, as long as it is against someone they view as right wing. And, right wing includes liberals there, because I am quite liberal. They are leftist authoritarians there, at least those who run the place and moderate it. They are not liberal, that's for sure.

I don't think all of them are leftist authoritarians. However, they certainly enable and pander to that mindset. As a liberal, supporter of liberty and defender of democracy, I have always been a target for the neo-communists' ire. However lately even people like Emmeline and Thommo, who are among the most reasonable people you could ever hope to encounter, have been copping abuse from the Corbyn trolls, simply for not being true believers.

It's a pattern of behaviour that is being played out all over social media and the Internet, with moderates being harrassed and bullied by neo-communists, emboldened by Corbyn's election as Labour leader. I had hoped that RatSkep, as a place of intended rationalism, would be immune to the tidal wave. Alas it was not.

I don't wholly blame the moderating team for falling under the pressure of it - they are only human - though the failure to inform me, after a week, of the reasons for my exclusion from a community I have been a member of for more than eight years is completely dishonourable and unbecoming of supposedly civilised people.

You should welcome the Corbynites as by committing electoral suicide the and not even able to be a checks and balances opposition. There is nothing to stop the Tory Party becoming the nasty party again. Which should give life to the old dog that is the LibDems a boost.

[DaveDodo007]

Dodo, this is probably one of the very, very few forums that do not or have not banned your arse, even though you keep insisting we are all a bunch of leftist, politically correct wankers...

Well apart from the personal attack at the end there I think most of you are. The only reason I'm not banned is due to the munificence of our glorious leader Pappa and his love of free speech, free expression and freedom of conscience. It is such a rare quality nowadays that were it to be measured in gold Pappa would be rich beyond the dreams of avarice. It is just a pity that a site with rational in it's name is full of people who are anything but that. Even you have given the stupid argument that some women in the past must have hurt me (Have I had my heart broken well yes I have just like every person on the planet who has ever been in love. Time is a great healer and you suck it up and move on.) because I'm anti-feminist even with the evidence I have provided to their misandry and toxic behaviour. That is akin to a religious person saying you don't believe in god because you want to sin. How can people who claim to be rational and skeptical believe an idea and ideology can never be questioned, that is just seriously fucked up.

[Seth]

How can people who claim to be rational and skeptical believe an idea and ideology can never be questioned, that is just seriously fucked up.

Because they are moronic, mindless Marxist idiots who aren't even all that useful to Marxism, that's how.

[Jason]

How can people who claim to be rational and skeptical believe an idea and ideology can never be questioned, that is just seriously fucked up.

Because they are moronic, mindless Marxist idiots who aren't even all that useful to Marxism, that's how.

Ah yes.. it always comes back to the "Marxists" doesn't it?

[pErvinalia]

rEv has left the building

Can't say as I miss his racket much.

Jeez, I pick my time to pop back in catch up with what's been happening the last few months. Who are you, anyway?

[Seth]

rEv has left the building

Can't say as I miss his racket much.

Jeez, I pick my time to pop back in catch up with what's been happening the last few months. Who are you, anyway?

Welcome back rEv, I hope you are well and happy!