The Myth of the Moderate Muslim

[cronus]

Atrocity on atrocity in the name of Islam. Still no massive crowds of 'not in my name' types on the streets. Whilst Islamic leaders sort of say it where are the Muslamic crowds in support of civilized values? I posit they are not there because they don't exist. The reason the origin of the next atrocity can't be predicted is because they are all carrying a extreme agenda which is inherent in their religion, written out plainly in their Q'ranic scriptures. Hatred of the outsider and deceiving the Kufar and dividing the world into the house of war and the house of peace...everything in their medieval (war)book is what they are playing out in the real and modern world.

[Hermit]

There are 1.7 billion Muslims. If all, or even a great number of them were extremists and their supporters you'd be long dead now.

As for the lack of Muslim voices heard opposing the extremists, check this out for example:

Five things Australia's grand mufti may or may not have said about the Paris attacks

If the mainstream media report this sort of thing at all they do that in order to spin it into the opposite of what was actually said.

Didn't I provide you with a list of Muslim leaders who condemned Islamic terrorism before the Paris outrage was half a day old a few days ago, and you dismissed it as a bunch of liars?

I think it may be a good idea if you acquainted yourself with reality. That would make for a welcome change.

[cronus]

There are 1.7 billion Muslims. If all, or even a great number of them were extremists and their supporters you'd be long dead now.

As for the lack of Muslim voices heard opposing the extremists, check this out for example:

Five things Australia's grand mufti may or may not have said about the Paris attacks

If the mainstream media report this sort of thing at all they do that in order to spin it into the opposite of what was actually said.

Didn't I provide you with a list of Muslim leaders who condemned Islamic terrorism before the Paris outrage was half a day old a few days ago, and you dismissed it as a bunch of liars?

I think it may be a good idea if you acquainted yourself with reality. That would make for a welcome change.

That's what I mean. Leaders, who have read the Koran well and know all about Taqiyya, condemn but it isn't grass-roots condemnation despite there being 1.7billion of them.

[Hermit]

Leaders, who have read the Koran well and know all about Taqiyya, condemn

Changed your tune about "lip service" now?

it isn't grass-roots condemnation despite there being 1.7billion of them.

Again: If all, or even a great number of them were extremists and their supporters you'd be long dead now.

[cronus]

Leaders, who have read the Koran well and know all about Taqiyya, condemn

Changed your tune about "lip service" now?

it isn't grass-roots condemnation despite there being 1.7billion of them.

Again: If all, or even a great number of them were extremists and their supporters you'd be long dead now.

In the fullness of time I am long dead. You look at these things in a very naive way. Not being moderates isn't the same as being die-hard extremists - consider evangelical Xians for instance?

[Hermit]

In the fullness of time I am long dead.

I'm not talking about the fullness of time. If moderate Muslims were a myth you'd be dead long ago.

With every post in this thread and others about the topic of Islamism you increasingly sound like this bright spark.

[Jason]

Wise man says set fire to field of tall grass to expose snakes hiding within.

[cronus]

Wise man says set fire to field of tall grass to expose snakes hiding within.

That's Trumps idea isn't it?

[Jason]

Wise man says set fire to field of tall grass to expose snakes hiding within.

That's Trumps idea isn't it?

Actually I think it might be from one of the new Batman movies.

[cronus]

Wise man says set fire to field of tall grass to expose snakes hiding within.

That's Trumps idea isn't it?

Actually I think it might be from one of the new Batman movies.

The difference is trite then...

[Jason]

True enough, except Donald has none of Michael Caine's charisma.

[JimC]

More to the point, there are a large number of muslims (just like christians) who give lip service to their religion while simply getting on with their everyday lives... Deep down, they are not true believers...

[cronus]

More to the point, there are a large number of muslims (just like christians) who give lip service to their religion while simply getting on with their everyday lives... Deep down, they are not true believers...

The dangerous undecided class, best ignored until the day they show up on your personal radar.

[Blind groper]

I have met and spoken to many Muslims, and I can tell you for real that most are very moderate. The vast majority are appalled at the violence of extremists. The 'boots on the ground' currently fighting ISIS are mostly Muslims. And they often fight with tenacity and great courage. I mean the Kurds, who are mostly sunni muslims.

[cronus]

I have met and spoken to many Muslims, and I can tell you for real that most are very moderate. The vast majority are appalled at the violence of extremists. The 'boots on the ground' currently fighting ISIS are mostly Muslims. And they often fight with tenacity and great courage. I mean the Kurds, who are mostly sunni muslims.

Good to know you've chosen a side in this epic struggle between sky faery nonsenses....